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  • MSphere
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    • Feb 2010
    • 8983

    That's the price of going west.. full dependence.. dead Antonov equals one competitor less.. Poroshenko is only a puppet, an agent acting on behalf of the forces in the background.. the same ones which have ejected him to power..
    Last edited by MSphere; 26th July 2017, 22:50.

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    • eagle
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      • Jan 2000
      • 2382

      There are different Antonov entities if I understand that correctly. Not sure what the Ukranian gov. is liquidating, but Antonov incl. Antonov Airlines (that's antonov.com) and Kiev/Kharkiv plants will remain. That's what's part of Ukroboronprom. Or something like that.
      How can less be more? It's impossible. More is more.
      Yngwie Malmsteen

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      • TR1
        TR1
        http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
        • Oct 2010
        • 9826

        Nice, first Su-30SM with Russian HUD:

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        • a89
          a89
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Sep 2011
          • 376

          So i uploaded the most interesting pictures from MAKS here;
          Berkut, many thanks for the insight.

          I wonder how this will impact Antonov production in Russia? Russia has for the past couple of years built ten times as many Antonov-branded planes on license at VASO and Aviastar (I think, or does Aviastar only service Ruslans etc?)
          VASO and Aviakor were producing An-148 and An-140, but at a slow rate. The former will complete a contract for the Russian MoD (5 An-148 left) and is very likely that production will cease. Aviakor (provately owned) recently applied for bankrupcy. In the long term these Antonovs will be replaced with Russian models. GLTK has already provided funding for 50 Il-114, and Russian agencies can buy Sukhoi SSJ.
          History and Military Technology blog

          alejandro-8en.blogspot.com

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          • Trident
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • May 2004
            • 3970

            Originally posted by eagle View Post
            There are different Antonov entities if I understand that correctly. Not sure what the Ukranian gov. is liquidating, but Antonov incl. Antonov Airlines (that's antonov.com) and Kiev/Kharkiv plants will remain. That's what's part of Ukroboronprom. Or something like that.
            Yes, I expect at least the entity/entities responsible for such projects as the An-132 and An-178 to live on.

            Originally posted by MSphere View Post
            That's the price of going west.. full dependence.. dead Antonov equals one competitor less.. Poroshenko is only a puppet, an agent acting on behalf of the forces in the background.. the same ones which have ejected him to power..
            It's not as though the situation used to be all that much better during the pre-Maidan era with the Russians as the senior partner, however. Prior to the Orange Revolution you can make a case that the funding starvation was at least partially caused by genuine budget woes, but after 2005 at the latest Antonov began to be systematically penalized on a nationalist basis.
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            • Sab3r329
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Apr 2016
              • 91

              Fascinating developments and insight into Russian 6th generation fighter research + radio-photonic radar

              https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/96305/#cut

              Concern Radioelectronic Technologies (KRET) has created an experimental sample of a radio-photon radar for a sixth-generation fighter that will replace the T-50. The pilot sample transmits, receives and processes the signal, an adviser to the first deputy general director of the KRET Vladimir Mikheyev said in an interview.
              EDIT: Full interview here -> http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/4...zen.yandex.com

              Use google translate/yandex translate.
              Last edited by Sab3r329; 27th July 2017, 21:37.

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              • MSphere
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 8983

                Originally posted by TR1
                Nice, first Su-30SM with Russian HUD:
                Looks like the ИКШ-1М (IKSh-1M), the same as used on the Su-35S

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                • TR1
                  TR1
                  http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 9826

                  Geophysika in Nepal:





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                  • TomcatViP
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 6122

                    What is she doing in Nep?

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                    • Dr.Snufflebug
                      Boggleboople snufflebug
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 530

                      Originally posted by TomcatViP
                      What is she doing in Nep?
                      Air sampling for climate research, most likely. She was up here in Norway/Sweden a while ago, doing exactly that. We've had the Lockheed U-2 here as well, that civilian airframe, whatever it's called.
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                      • TR1
                        TR1
                        http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 9826

                        Anyone else dissapointed by the videos that came out of this year's MAKS? Awesome Flanker repetitions, but I have yet to see anything that interesting from the actual event airshow. Not to mention a lot of interesting ground expositions were barely photographed....thanks for the info btw Berkut.

                        http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2759331.html

                        Another 2 Su-30SM for the Kursk unit. To date that is 87 delivered out of 116 ordered.
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                        • stealthflanker
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 1026

                          Im disappointed that PAKFA havent opened her internal bay

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                          • Berkut
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 2216

                            Unless i missed it, i havent seen anything about this;

                            http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/confi...s-from-russia/

                            So it is finally signed.

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                            • TR1
                              TR1
                              http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 9826

                              So the number now is 11 lol? First 12, then 8, then 10, now 11?

                              Su-35, Kab-1500KR:

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                              • TR1
                                TR1
                                http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 9826



                                Navy has BMs?
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                                • stealthflanker
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Sep 2015
                                  • 1026

                                  Not Yet Berkut... i foresee possibility of another long term drama on Su-35 for Indonesia. The price might be agreeable. But there are other factors like who will act as funding agent. You know in Indonesia we have a term called as "Bank Garansi"/ Guarantee bank. this is kinda hard to settle partly due to western sanctions that made it difficult to find anyone who want to deal with Russia.

                                  But yeah, pray hard.

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                                  • Austin
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 6506

                                    You know in Indonesia we have a term called as "Bank Garansi"/ Guarantee bank. this is kinda hard to settle partly due to western sanctions that made it difficult to find anyone who want to deal with Russia.
                                    Government can take sovereign gurantee for G2G deal
                                    "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                                    • stealthflanker
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Sep 2015
                                      • 1026

                                      Except that for whatever Russian, you will have to deal with Rosoboroneksport. and later Rosoboroneksport will appoint local country agent. Which in our earlier Flanker, was handled by Trimarga co.

                                      There is no real "G2G" deal in here.

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                                      • Marcellogo
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jun 2014
                                        • 1840

                                        @ TR-1
                                        Yes, of course.
                                        Russian Navy has the control of the Artic Zone of Operation/Front in which the Northern fleet is located hence it control also the planes protecting its aereospace.

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                                        • JangBoGo
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Jan 2011
                                          • 1510

                                          @ Berkut,
                                          Thakyou for those details and pics.

                                          - Zhuk-A grew from ~600 to 1016 (iirc) t/r's due to improvements to the cooling. The cooling is in part by fluid (plain water iirc) and air. In the Zhuk-A pics the red thingy at the back is the air intake, blue line running along the bottom is for water. Asked about if Okhotnik work is something he was familiar with, heard about it but didnt have direct connection to it. Same with Zaslon work.
                                          Does it mean both of those units displayed now have 1016 t/r units?
                                          Are they both using the T/R modules made from LTCC, if so why is the earlier model of Zhuk-A still so bulky in its front end? Probably those water cooling lines?



                                          Do you have a rear end view of this Zhuk-AMEh unit? Is it still the designation?
                                          https://i.imgur.com/9BGZ3ri.jpg

                                          What about the rumours of Egyptian MiG-29s to get the Zhuk-AMEh in the future deliveries?

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