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    Originally posted by PeeD View Post
    Research into it, its known as Raad-2 and 3rd Khordad. Its not a mock up, various photos show subsystems and testing. There is even a photo of the engagement radar and it looks like a AESA.

    I guess this all remains on-topic because a originally Russian concept is what we are talking about
    Driving through a parade ground, showing vague testing footage =/= a functioning system like Buk-M2. Iran is infamous for parade floats of blatantly copied systems that in reality either do not work or are in the early stages of trials.
    They even showed a S-300 copy, and......ended up importing S-300, with desperation to close the deal as well.

    I'd be willing to put a friendly wager that Iran continues importing AD systems, and even more after the UN restriction runs out, as money allows.
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      Interview Ilya Tarasenko, of General Director of the JSC "Russian Aircraft Corporation, the MiG

      http://echo.msk.ru/guests/819732-echo/

      Any information what he mentioned in interview , May be something on Light Fighter Program for Russian Speaking folks here ?
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        He said: "This Lightweight MultiFunctional Aircraft (LMFS)..."
        I do not think that the Arabs will finance the development of a new engine. There are izd.117 and izd.30, but they are for light single-engine aircraft.
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          Friends, I'm not here to argue about the 3rd Khordad being on pair with the Buk-M2, nor will I defend the mock-up of a long range sam shown during a parade 7 years ago.

          The 3rd Khordad is modelled on the Buk-M2 (not -M1, that system is called Tabas). Iran sometimes shows mock-ups of conceptual projects of for internal consumption and prototypes for disinformation of the enemy.
          Its up to people like us to see whats real and whats real and intended to be proven to be real. It's not a coincidence that they have shown the internal radar of the 3rd Khordad, high-res photos of the missiles (which are very different to Buk series).

          To that friend who cant judge a PESA from a AESA if the internals of the radar is visible, here some guidelines: if the array depth is more than one meter and intensive cooling is provided to the front of the array, you have two good indicators for a AESA. I dont claim that the AESA array of the 3rd Khordad is any better than the PESA of the Buk-M2, it just shows how different both systems are and that it's not a simple copy.

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            http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4075756

            MOD will get 12 Ka-52s this year. It received 14 in 2016 according to plan, and an additional 2 ahead of schedule.

            http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4076636

            Shoigu says "new long range missile" will finally enter service this year. Likely, talking about the 40N6....

            Yak-152:

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              Oldie but goodie:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot-j3jbEAr0

              Some nice Hellduck editing:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSyyNzSF2M
              Thanks

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                What is that missile that is fired at alt after being launched from the aircraft and slowed down by a parachute (at 2:38) ?

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                  Looks like the BETAB-500 rocket assisted bunker buster.

                  Also not that you needed me to point this out, but obviously the strike footage following has nothing to do with the BETAB.
                  Last edited by TR1; 8th March 2017, 02:25.
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                    Thank you. I missed it obviously.

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                      First Ka-52 for Egypt:



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                        Nice Information on UEC Engine program from official sources

                        FROM THE BASE TO THE FAMILY


                        https://www.aviaport.ru/news/2017/03/07/425117.html

                        "United Engine Building Corporation" is implementing a new approach to the creation of aircraft engines, which will be developed according to the basic gas generators using all promising technologies. In the future engine family will be based on them, the respective customer requirements. This will reverse the trend of the past years, when the lack of advanced technological advance led to the need for its creation already in the process of engine development, which entailed a significant increase in both time-consuming, and the total cost of the work. New Approaches Corporation during the first meeting of the Aviation Board of the Government of the Russian Federation told the CEO of UEC Alexander Artyukhov.


                        One of the problems of the domestic civil aviation was considered to be lagging behind the leading powers in the creation of efficient engines. The reason why the engine becomes "weak link", was systematic: many years of consecutive work on a new generation of engines started with a delay of the development of its own aircraft, which led to the introduction of phasing in the implementation of projects. As a result, forward-looking planes and helicopters were prepared as serial transition existing engines that do not achieve the stated performance, to realize the full potential of the aircraft, reducing their competitiveness and commercial attractiveness.

                        "United Engine Building Corporation" faced with this problem in the implementation of the project PD-14 engine for the future of the main MS-21 aircraft. The situation demanded a review of approaches to the development of new products. Now the emphasis is on the creation of basic gas generators that receive the most advanced technical and technological solutions. In the future, based on the needs and samolёto- vertolёtostroiteley on their platform will be created with the necessary engine parameters. This approach, according to the head of the JDC would not only harmonize the timing of development of aircraft engines and aircraft, but also to ensure the achievement of the planned features in full, as well as enhance the competitiveness of the products and will generally reduce technical risks in projects.

                        During the meeting, board Air A.Artyuhov spoke in detail about the ongoing projects and future developments. First of all, he recalled the SaM146 engine, certified by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA). Aircraft engine fully complies with all rules and regulations that govern the safe operation, including corrosivity environment and sea-based. According to the UEC, the corporation is now the task of increasing the level of localization of production in Russia SaM146. It is planned that the work will be carried out in two stages. "The first stage is planned to increase the degree of localization to 55% on the second stage -. 80%," - said A.Artyuhov. He also noted that in addition to the current use on the Sukhoi Superjet 100, the installation of SaM146 is possible and the Be-200.

                        Also A.Artyuhov informed about the current state of the project development turboprop TV7-117SM / PT. He stressed that this is a key part of the program in the task of building a domestic aircraft IL -114-300 for local airlines, which is scheduled to start in the series in 2020. To date, preliminary testing of the prototype engine. "As a result we can conclude that both technically and technologically implement the project within the given timeframe," - he said. In addition, he noted that the development of "complexed" with the program on military aircraft engines for the Il-112V, as well as the creation of the engine program TV7-117V for the Mi-38, which has already been certified.

                        A key project, which today sells APC - creation engine PD-14 to MS-21 medium-range aircraft. The head of the JDC noted that during the implementation of this program introduced 16 basic critical technologies, which allowed to reach the current level of engine parameters. "At present the production of experimental engines already manufactured 12 The complex of development tests, including simulated real operating conditions are confirmed stated technical characteristics of the engine.." - Shared A.Artyuhov. As part of the same project also creates a nacelle. The head of the corporation noted that previously it to develop, as a rule, remain within the competence of the aircraft developers. According A.Artyuhova created gasifier PD-14 - base. On its basis in minimum time and with minimum risk can be developed aircraft engines for different purposes: for helicopter and aircraft for civil and military applications.

                        Another priority for the Russian engine - the creation of high-thrust engine of 35-40 tons to be mounted on the modern long-haul wide-body aircraft. "Currently, in the framework of research and development under this program creates the necessary groundwork, developed eight key core technologies, the infrastructure, - told A.Artyuhov - The project will significantly enhance the ability of domestic developers planes to form shape of aircraft for various purposes:. Passenger transport and military transport. "

                        As part of the creation of engines for helicopters JDC today implements VC-2500PS program based on the VS-2500. As a result of the modernization of increased performance and reliability of the base engine. "The engine is implemented anti-surge protection system that provides reliable engine performance in heavy and transient conditions, the assigned resource increased by 30%", - said A.Artyuhov, recalling that in 2016 the motor type certificates obtained. VC-2500PS is ready for serial production in Russia and supplies. Today, APC continues to implement the program, increasing volumes of mass production of helicopter engines.

                        In addition, within the framework of works on creation of helicopter engines there is a program for the development of a promising helicopter engine (MPE) with characteristics to reduce fuel consumption by 20% compared with the serial engine, greatly reduce the weight of the product, as well as increase its reliability and service life. According to the UEC, the engine is created using the latest composite materials, advanced technical solutions and technologies.

                        Concluding his speech, A.Artyuhov noted that the successful completion of all new projects will contribute to meeting the competitiveness and attractiveness of commercial aircrafts with domestic engines. Currently, UEC has sufficient scientific and technical, production, human resources to create a domestic advanced aircraft engines. He again stressed that the main engine through the development has been the creation of gas turbine engines based on the basic gas generators. In the medium term will be the base gas generators and engines PD-14 and TV7-117. In the long term it will be added to the DD-35 and LDPE.
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                          What is LDPE ? В долгосрочной к ним добавятся ПД-35 и ПВД.
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                            Originally posted by Austin View Post
                            What is LDPE ? В долгосрочной к ним добавятся ПД-35 и ПВД.
                            Перспективный Вертолетный Двигатель - Perspective Helicopter Engine

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                              Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                              http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4075756

                              MOD will get 12 Ka-52s this year. It received 14 in 2016 according to plan, and an additional 2 ahead of schedule.

                              http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4076636

                              Shoigu says "new long range missile" will finally enter service this year. Likely, talking about the 40N6....

                              Yak-152:

                              He is mostly likely talking about long range anti air missiles for naval vessels as most of tests are done in Baltic and North Sea. S300V4 already 400km.

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                                Yuri Slusar President of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Presentation on UAC Civil Program

                                http://www.aex.ru/docs/3/2017/3/6/2573/
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                                  http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4080556

                                  According to Borisov 17 Su-30SM and 10 Yak-130 will be delivered this year.

                                  http://djoker-lj.livejournal.com/295422.html

                                  As well as 10 Su-35, as well as finally the first 4 upgraded Su-27.
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                                    Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                                    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4075756

                                    MOD will get 12 Ka-52s this year. It received 14 in 2016 according to plan, and an additional 2 ahead of schedule.

                                    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4076636

                                    Shoigu says "new long range missile" will finally enter service this year. Likely, talking about the 40N6....

                                    Yak-152:

                                    ? this is some light attack air tractor ?

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                                      More likely a Russian PC-9.

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                                        Il-112 wing before mating.



                                        MS-21 @ Irkut.
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