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  • stealthflanker
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    Does it really need to fly all the way ? Why can't just ship it or load it into some AN-124's ?

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  • eagle
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    The first F-39 will perform flight tests in Sweden until the end of 2020, then continue flight tests in Brazil.
    If I had to guess, I'd say AAR certification of the E model will be part of the flight tests before going to Brazil.
    Probably still going to include 1 or 2 stops... maybe Gando air base (Gran Canaria/Spain).
    Last edited by eagle; 12th September 2019, 18:38.

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  • Spitfire9
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    Originally posted by eagle View Post
    Fly there? It's not like the Gripen can't cross the Atlantic...
    Well I agree it can fly across the Atlantic (quoted ferry range of 4000Km) but it can't do Sweden-Brazil without refuelling, so I wondered what route it would take.

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  • eagle
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    Fly there? It's not like the Gripen can't cross the Atlantic...

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  • Spitfire9
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    Saab Presents First Gripen E to Brazil

    https://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...to-brazil.html

    I wonder how it will get to Brazil. Sweden is a long way from Brazil.

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  • Sintra
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    That's a beauty

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  • Diupa
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    First Brazilian Gripen E Completes its First Flight

    First Brazilian Gripen E Completes its First Flight


    Saab today completed a successful first flight with the first Brazilian Gripen E fighter aircraft, 39-6001. At 2.41 pm CET on August 26, the Gripen E aircraft took off on its maiden flight flown by Saab test pilot Richard Ljungberg. The aircraft operated from Saabs airfield in Linkping, Sweden.

    The duration of the flight was 65 minutes and included test points to verify basic handling and flying qualities at different altitudes and speeds. The main purpose was to verify that the aircraft behavior was according to expectations.

    This milestone is a testament to the great partnership between Sweden and Brazil. Less than five years since the contract was signed, the first Brazil Gripen has conducted her first flight, says Hkan Buskhe, President and CEO of Saab.

    This aircraft is the first Brazilian production aircraft and will be used in the joint test program as a test aircraft. The main differences compared to the previous test aircraft are that 39-6001 has a totally new cockpit layout, with a large Wide Area Display (WAD), two small Head Down Displays (sHDD) and a new Head Up Display (HUD). Another major difference is an updated flight control system with updated control laws for Gripen E. It also includes modifications both in hardware and software.

    For me as a pilot it has been a great honour to fly the first Brazilian Gripen E aircraft as I know how much this means for the Brazilian Air Force and everyone at Saab and our Brazilian partners. The flight was smooth and the aircraft behaved just as we have seen in the rigs and simulators. This was also the first time we flew with the Wide Area Display in the cockpit, and I am happy to say that my expectations were confirmed, says Saab test pilot Richard Ljungberg.

    39-6001 will now join the test programme for further envelope expansion as well as testing of tactical system and sensors.

    39-6001 will be designated F-39 in the Brazilian Air Force and will have the tail number 4100.

    https://saabgroup.com/media/news-pre...-first-flight/



    Video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02n1J9VC-_k

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  • halloweene
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    No worries. Bern said that it was definitive because otherwise it would not be fair for other contenders. But as you say, any fighter purchase has a political side...

    https://www.vbs.admin.ch/de/verteidi...html#reifegrad

    Briefly, planes present versions are chosen by armasuisse. Any system must have at least a TRL7. Any further improvements can (or not) be selected by swiss
    Last edited by halloweene; 13th June 2019, 12:47.

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  • Spitfire9
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    Sorry. Yes. you are right. Not SAAB's decision but Armasuisse. Doesn't this mean Gripen E is out of contention unless it turns out to be the best option financially and the politicians go for that angle? That was what happened last time, I think.

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  • halloweene
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    It was on Armasuisse request that considered the platform not mature enough.

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  • Spitfire9
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    Gripen E to give Swiss flight tests a miss

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...a-miss-458883/

    That reduces the number of contenders by 1, doesn't it? Sounds a bit like a student saying he does not want to take an exam but wants to get better marks than the candidates who actually take the exam.

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  • Spitfire9
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    Third Gripen E takes to the air

    SAAB expects to have 4 production aircraft flying by the end of 2019.

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...rcraft-458808/

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  • Spitfire9
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    Originally posted by APRichelieu View Post
    The contract between Sweden and Hungary expires in 2026. It was extended in 2017, and includes an upgrade to the MS20 standard.
    What happens after 2026 is of course totally open.
    That would be the time to switch to F-35, wouldn't it, if Hungary wanted to.

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  • APRichelieu
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    The contract between Sweden and Hungary expires in 2026. It was extended in 2017, and includes an upgrade to the MS20 standard.
    What happens after 2026 is of course totally open.

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  • TomcatViP
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    thank you for the heads up. If true that would be quite a surprising news anyway... and perhaps in line with President Trump new policy to subsidize US made weapon for certain country in EU that are stuck with Russian harware.

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  • Pants
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    Originally posted by Spitfire9 View Post
    Hungary May Scrap Swedish Jet Deal for US F-35 Over War of Words - Report



    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...-_-report.html
    Should be noted that Fria Tider is a right wing extremist news source, might be true, but might also not be.

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  • Spitfire9
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    Hungary May Scrap Swedish Jet Deal for US F-35 Over War of Words - Report

    Hungary is considering scrapping its lease agreement for Jas 39 Gripen and replacing the 14 Swedish fighter jets with US-made F-35, which may cost Sweden billions of kronor and thousands of job opportunities, the Swedish news outlet Fria Tider reported.

    The bilateral lease agreement is now at stake over Sweden's "constant smear campaign" against the Hungarian government. Specifically, Hungary is considering replacing the lease agreement with a $1 billion deal with US firm Lockheed Martin. The choice is between the latest model of the F-16 or the fifth generation F-35.
    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...-_-report.html

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  • Spitfire9
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    SAAB offers Canada local production of Gripen E if ordered

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ters-t-458574/

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  • halloweene
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    Mats Hegelsson will present the new trianing system the 16th of june in Paris. Will give you further details if i can attend.

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  • Agrippa
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    Some details regarding Gripen E's new EW-suite, at the end of the file: https://mags.shephardmedia.com/Show%..._p01-16_v2.pdf

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