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  • max steel
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    • Jan 2016
    • 50

    Originally posted by Broccoli View Post
    NATO is more capable than Russia and in future even more so. Russia is already turning into backwards nation but then again becoming a North Korea II seems to be Tsar Putin's master plan.
    Good Lord well speak for yourself. Western democracy is a total sham. Example, Finnish government one year after elections is conducting an aggressive thatcherite campaign of privatization but before the elections none of the coalition parties had announced that privatization would be there intention. They also want to find reason to subjugate Finland to NATO although most of the governing coalition had rejected that in their election platforms.

    Don't worry by 2025 nato too will get many surprises.

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    • FBW
      FBW
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Dec 2011
      • 3295

      Originally posted by max steel View Post
      Good Lord well speak for yourself. Western democracy is a total sham. Example, Finnish government one year after elections is conducting an aggressive thatcherite campaign of privatization but before the elections none of the coalition parties had announced that privatization would be there intention. They also want to find reason to subjugate Finland to NATO although most of the governing coalition had rejected that in their election platforms.

      Don't worry by 2025 nato too will get many surprises.
      good lord, this guy is like an angry JSR without the economic babble. Another brylient mynd destroyed by Sputnik news.

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      • Loke
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        • Jun 2008
        • 3302

        Defence and security company Saab will take the next step in the evolution of the Gripen fighter system on 18 May, with the unveiling of the first test aircraft of the next generation, Gripen E.
        The event will be live-streamed on Saab's Web site, making it possible for people around the world to take part. Please visit www.gripen.com/evolution to learn more about the Gripen Evolution and to watch the unveiling of the Gripen E.
        http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.ph...mid=116&catid=

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        • Loke
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Jun 2008
          • 3302

          https://twitter.com/ReutersIndia/sta...51428737208320

          Strange... Is Reuters India as unreliable as the rest of Indian media?

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          • Loke
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Jun 2008
            • 3302

            On the GRIPEN E roadmap the CEO told the media panel that Saab is competing in Belgium and Finnland, as well as having ongoing discussions with India. We believe Switzerland will come back, he said.
            http://www.miltechmag.com/2016/05/sa....html?spref=tw

            Interesting, this seems to confirm what Reuters India reported.

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            • Sintra
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2007
              • 3849

              Originally posted by max steel View Post
              Good Lord well speak for yourself. Western democracy is a total sham. Example, Finnish government one year after elections is conducting an aggressive thatcherite campaign of privatization but before the elections none of the coalition parties had announced that privatization would be there intention. They also want to find reason to subjugate Finland to NATO although most of the governing coalition had rejected that in their election platforms.
              Yes, Western Democracy a "total sham"...
              I am quite sure that the North Koreans are, oh, so much better than the Fins...
              Last edited by Sintra; 17th May 2016, 18:25.
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              • Loke
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jun 2008
                • 3302

                Having a roll-out of a new aircraft is a dream for a CEO, Saab chief executive Hkan Buskhe told journalists in Stockholm the day before the event. The company believes a potential market exists to produce between 400 and 450 Gripen Es over the life of the programme, he adds.
                Saab launched the Gripen E project in February 2013, and says the programme is on schedule and on budget. Noting that the cost of the development activity and producing its eventual three test aircraft will be less than $2 billion[...]
                It will be interesting to see if they can keep it on schedule and on budget!

                https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ipen-e-425451/

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                • Y-20 Bacon
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 2176

                  here it is, a gripen rolled out!

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                  • Loke
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3302

                    Livefist blogger Shiv Aroor in Sweden:

                    Briefing shortly on Gripen E & how @Saab plans to pitch it for #MakeInIndia. Tweet me questions you'd like answered.
                    https://twitter.com/livefist/status/733268341230559232

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                    • topspeed
                      Get on uppah !
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2659

                      Originally posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
                      here it is, a gripen rolled out!

                      But not the e-type...which has one wheel now at the front...cheaper to operate.
                      If it looks good, it will fly good !
                      -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


                      http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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                      • Loke
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 3302

                        According to the Swedish company in the offer not only talking about costs and technology exchange, but made ​​clear that if a contract for the Evolution version closed, the aircraft could be operating in Colombia in 2021 and, if choose the C / D version first deliveries would be made ​​within 18 months from the signing of the respective purchase agreements.
                        Google translated from:

                        http://www.infodefensa.com/latam/201...ega-meses.html

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                        • Loke
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3302

                          America's decision to remove the arms embargo against Vietnam can open the large Swedish arms deals with the Southeast Asian one-party state. It could for example be the case with a Vietnamese Gripen deal.
                          Google translated from: http://www.svd.se/oppnar-for-gripena.../om/naringsliv

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                          • Loke
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 3302

                            Hanoi is studying several possibilities for buying French Rafale fighters and Sweden's Gripen.
                            Google translated from: http://viettimes.vn/dia-chinh-tri/tr...nam-57635.html

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                            • Spitfire9
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 2832

                              Update on Botswana

                              Sweden’s state-funded military materials procurement agency is denying that a deal has been struck to sell 12 Saab JAS Gripen C/D multirole fighters to Botswana. Frsvarets Materielverk (FMV) confirmed that while the organization is "in talks" with Botswana, the number of aircraft under discussion is around eight and not 16.

                              http://www.defensenews.com/story/def...-jet/84598556/
                              Sum ergo cogito

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                              • Loke
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 3302

                                Saab chief executive Hkan Buskhe reveals the cost of developing the Gripen E and producing its three Swedish test aircraft will be less than $2 billion.
                                “I think it will be a great aircraft – definitely the best fighter that we’ve ever had,” Swedish air force chief Maj Gen Mats Helgesson said on the eve of the roll-out. Using the new model will ensure the service is able to keep pace with emerging regional threats, including the Russian military’s Sukhoi Su-35 and T-50 fighters and advanced S400 surface-to-air missile system, he adds.
                                “There is some optimisation to do – we can reduce some weight,” he notes.
                                Saab notes, more than three years since the formal launch of the Gripen E project for Sweden, it has hit all required milestones.
                                Read more: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...d-grip-425546/

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                                “I think it will be a great aircraft – definitely the best fighter that we’ve ever had,” Swedish air force chief Maj Gen Mats Helgesson said on the eve of the roll-out. Using the new model will ensure the service is able to keep pace with emerging regional threats, including the Russian military’s Sukhoi Su-35 and T-50 fighters and advanced S400 surface-to-air missile system, he adds.
                                S-400 and PAK FA.... those Swedes are very confident in the Gripen E capabilities!
                                Last edited by Loke; 24th May 2016, 18:39.

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                                • Loke
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Jun 2008
                                  • 3302

                                  The general asked me when we were presented if I was happy to fly Gripen. I said that I was really and exemplified it that I never lost a dogfight against an American fighter aircraft built and then I had practiced against everyone except the F-22.
                                  Google translated from: http://www.expressen.se/kronikorer/c...top-gun-fight/

                                  Dog fights are not that relevant anymore however still interesting read...

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                                  • Loke
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Jun 2008
                                    • 3302

                                    The Meteor missile changes the balance of forces in the air. With Meteor, the Swedish Air Force will be able to push away opponents because they wont dare approach, says Michael stergren, Project Manager of the JAS Gripen update.

                                    Meteor is a missile with a completely new technology that allows it to reach targets at long distances. By interacting with various sensors on the JAS 39 Gripen, the missile can be fired long before enemy planes can fire their own missiles.

                                    Gripen can fire their weapons long before the opponent can. This means that you can push opponents away because they do not dare to approach, said Michael stergren, project manager for Gripen C/D version 20, which includes Meteor.

                                    Being able to reach the enemy with the weapon before he can do it gives a first-shot capability and allows, in particular, to push back enemy aircraft, for example to prevent attacks against Sweden.
                                    Read more: http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...e-gripens.html

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                                    • Loke
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Jun 2008
                                      • 3302

                                      Report from "NATO tiger meet":

                                      "the benefits of JAS-39 Gripen, in addition to its high maneuverability, dimensions. "The aircraft is compared with other airplanes of the fourth generation noticeably smaller adversary us because usually notices later than we are His. Other features include a powerful radar that enables the detection of targets at a great distance. In combination with a radar jammer, then according to the current results is causing considerable problems for other airplanes, "praising Čslavsk experienced pilot.
                                      Google translated from: http://afbcaslav.cz/index.php/zpravy...iger-meet-2016

                                      Participants in NATO Tiger Meet 2016: http://www.natotigers.org/tiger-meets/2016

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                                      • JBr
                                        JBr
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Mar 2016
                                        • 3

                                        Originally posted by Loke View Post
                                        Here's a more precise translation of the quoted part of the article:

                                        "Every aircraft has strong and weak points that we have to use to our advantage in dogfight," tells one of the Czech fighter pilots and adds: "We have our own battle tactics and we choose the best one based on the specifications of the oponent's aircraft." Apart from high maneuverability, the other advantage of JAS 39 is its size. "The aircraft is noticeably smaller when compared to other 4th generation fighters, that's why the oponent usually spots us later than we spot him. Another advantage is a very powerful radar allowing target detection on long distance. Based on the results so far, the radar in combination with jammer causes considerable problems to other aircraft," experienced pilot from Čslav praises [the aircraft].

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                                        • JSR
                                          JSR
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Aug 2011
                                          • 4976

                                          Originally posted by Loke View Post
                                          Read more: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...d-grip-425546/

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                                          S-400 and PAK FA.... those Swedes are very confident in the Gripen E capabilities!
                                          The problem with swedes is there bragging on paper. I will send this swedes to Syria first. Plus they don't own factory of Meteor . There missile can practically outdated. This Gripen NG is decade away from service.

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