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  • BlackArcher
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    Originally posted by SpudmanWP
    The original title is: Lockheed Martin Says F-35A Flight Hour Stretch Goal Achievable

    Why did you change it?
    Dude, I don't have an agenda ok? the F-35 program is of very little interest to me personally speaking. The Aviation Week article says "Achievable" but there was another similar article titled

    "
    Pentagon Says F-35 Flight Hour Stretch Goal Unachievable



    Aerospace Daily & Defense Report May 02, 2019 , p. 5

    Lee Hudson "


    The Pentagon admits its $25,000 flight hour stretch goal for the Lockheed MartinF-35A is unrealistic to attain by fiscal 2025.


    There are several studies ongoing surrounding F-35 flight hour cost at the Pentagon and there is no path to get to $25,000 by fiscal 2025. Currently, the F-35A cost per flight hour is $44,000, Bob Daigle, Cost Assessment And Program Evaluation (CAPE) director, told the House Armed Services tactical air and land forces subcommittee May 2.


    Thats a target and its not our projection of where were actually going to be, Daigle said.

    Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin said in February the company was committed to the $25,000 cost target goal by 2025. I have a lot of confidence were going to get there. And every day I see the actions of that partnership, said O.J. Sanchez, sustainment innovation and operations vice president.

    The F-35 enterprise highlights flight hour cost targets in its lifecycle sustainability plan (LSP) that was approved in January. The LSP has eight lines of effort that assess cost per flying hour, cost per tail per year and overall ownership cost, Vice Adm. Mat Winter, F-35 program executive officer, told reporters May 2 after the subcommittee hearing.

    All of those levers that are in the LSP give us the confidence that we can go from $44,000 a flight hour to $34,000 a flight hour in 2024, Winter said.

    The LSP has the $25,000 flight hour stretch goal by 2025 in the document. That will be very, very hard to meet but its FY 19 right now and we have a number of years, he said.

    On average the cost per flight hour for the F-35 must be reduced by 7-12% each year. The 25 by 25 wasnt generated by the program office nor the CAPE. It was stretch goal given to us by our leadership, Winter said.

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  • SpudmanWP
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    Ottawa's planned fighter competition incompatible with F-35 obligations: U.S.

    Basically, Canada is requiring guaranteed offsets despite signing agreements that stated otherwise.
    The letters specifically take issue with the governments plan to have each fighter-jet maker commit to re-investing in Canada if its aircraft wins the upcoming competition aimed at buying 88 new planes for $19 billion.

    While that is standard for most Canadian military procurements, the U.S. officials note that Canada agreed not to apply such a requirement when it signed on as one of nine F-35 partner countries in 2006.

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  • BlackArcher
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    Originally posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    The statement was not the issue, it was the intentionally misleading title.

    That is the way that the best propaganda works, some truth mixed with intentional deception.
    Well if it makes you feel any better, Aviation Week carried a similar "misleading" title. And here is a direct quote from Aviation Week on this topic


    The Pentagon is conducting numerous studies on F-35 flight hour cost, and there is no path to get to $25,000 by fiscal 2025. Currently, the F-35A cost per flight hour is $44,000, Bob Daigle, Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation (CAPE) director, told the House Armed Services tactical air and land forces subcommittee May 2.


    Thats a target, and its not our projection of where were actually going to be, Daigle said.

    The F-35 enterprise highlights flight-hour cost targets in its lifecycle sustainability plan (LSP) that was approved in January. The LSP has eight lines of effort that assess cost per flying hour, cost per tail per year and overall ownership cost, Vice Adm. Mat Winter, F-35 program executive officer, told reporters May 2 after the subcommittee hearing.

    All of those levers that are in the LSP give us the confidence that we can go from $44,000 a flight hour to $34,000 a flight hour in 2024, Winter said.


    The LSP has the $25,000 flight hour stretch goal by 2025 in the document. That will be very, very hard to meet but its FY 19 right now and we have a number of years, he said.

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  • BlackArcher
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    Lockheed Martin says F-35A flight hour cost stretch goal achievable
    Last edited by BlackArcher; 6th May 2019, 21:15.

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  • BlackArcher
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    Turkish Hurjet approaches PDR despite program delays

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  • BlackArcher
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    Lockheed Martin inaugurates new F-16 production facility

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  • BlackArcher
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    US Marine Harriers set for extended service

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  • SpudmanWP
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    "Blahblah"

    Responded to it on the F-35 thread
    https://forum.keypublishing.com/foru...66#post3861366

    Mods: Please move Posts 7224 --> 7226 to the F-35 thread.

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  • halloweene
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    Blahblah. "

    The department doesnt see a path to get to $25,000 dollars per flying hour by FY25, said Robert Daigle, the outgoing head of the Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office, during a House Armed Services subcommittee hearing. There are a fair number of studies going on right now that are going to provide some more information on that, but thats a target and its not our projection for where were actually going to be.
    Or maybe you are insinuationg that Valerie Insinna is lying?

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  • SpudmanWP
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    The statement was not the issue, it was the intentionally misleading title.

    That is the way that the best propaganda works, some truth mixed with intentional deception.

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  • halloweene
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    Originally posted by SpudmanWP View Post


    Really, now we're doing Sputnik as valid news sources on American programs?

    In fact there is an official statement, so in this very area Sputnik is not in cause.

    https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019...-unattainable/

    The department doesnt see a path to get to $25,000 dollars per flying hour by FY25, said Robert Daigle, the outgoing head of the Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation office, during a House Armed Services subcommittee hearing.

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  • pilatus
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    Check out @Oded121351s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Oded121351/statu...056189952?s=09

    Fabricated evidence mostly, look how pristine the ejection seat is after falling back to earth. I'm not saying they didn't shoot an aircraft down, photos of the wreckage are available online, but this ejection seat certainly didn't belong to it.

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  • SpudmanWP
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    Really, now we're doing Sputnik as valid news sources on American programs?

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  • BlackArcher
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    Libyan National Army identifies Mirage-F1 mercenary pilot shot down

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  • BlackArcher
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    Pentagon Does Not See Path to Reduce F-35 Jet's Cost - Program Evaluation Director

    "The Department does not see a path to get to $25,000 per flying hour by FY 2025," Daigle told the US House of Representatives Subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces.

    The F-35A Joint Program Office, Daigle said, estimates the cost per flying hour for the F-35A variant of the aircraft in 2024 would be $34,000. "Our [Pentagon] estimate is $36,000 for the [F-35]A -- About the same," Daigle said.

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  • BlackArcher
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    South Korea test flying F-35A fighters

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  • BlackArcher
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    China's stealth jet may be ready this year, says US Commander

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  • BlackArcher
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    RAF stands up 9 Squadron as latest Typhoon unit

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  • XB-70
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    The B-1 Lancer is back in the air.

    https://www.defensenews.com/newslett...rounding-ends/

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  • XB-70
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    Tyndall AFB repair work is stalling out.

    https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019...cial-disaster/

    Honestly, considering where Tyndall is, I don't see why the Government doesn't take the opportunity to downsize it and move assets elsewhere. It's always going to be at risk of storm damage and it's not like the Cubans are going to invade.

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