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  • Spitfire9
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jul 2008
    • 2832

    Originally posted by halloweene View Post
    Says a lot about perceived "F-21" chances in India...
    Well, there is still some demand for F-16 from countries that do not want to be supplied la Indian (never know when it will be supplied). Had India announced it had decided to order a "Made in India F-21" how many years would it have been before aircraft actually rolled off the line - 3 years? 5 years? 10 years? Never because India changed her mind? If a country were serious about re-equiping its air force with an Indian produced F-16 within a planned time schedule, it would be taking a very big risk ordering F-21.

    I see Dassault getting another Rafale order when India finds herself acutely short of fighters due to Tejas being many years late, MMRCA failing to produce any results after running for nearly 10 years, iMade in India producing no result etc etc

    At the same time I hope that the interminably delayed Tejas programme keeps to current schedule and a squadron or more starts being produced each year.
    Sum ergo cogito

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    • halloweene
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Jan 2012
      • 4350

      Dassault did play well on the "make in india" part. Front parts of Falcon are produced from Nagpur, and a much bigger building is being built.
      How to build confidence in a partner...

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      • XB-70
        Rank 4 Registered User
        • May 2018
        • 350

        Had India announced it had decided to order a "Made in India F-21" how many years would it have been before aircraft actually rolled off the line - 3 years? 5 years? 10 years?
        Spitfire9 - If they acted immediately they could probably begin to turn out the first units in 3-4 years. But volume production? Yeah, that would be like 10 years. So I don't see countries going for a made in India F-21 either. Not even from India. The market for 4th gen will be getting pretty small by then. Another stopgap Rafale order is quite possible, however.


        Scooter - Yeah, I saw that same Janes article a few days back and didn't post it as it seemed worthy of some skepticism. However, I don't think you can call it absurd either. The two programs would be competing for the high thrust variants of the Ws-10 engine. But I haven't found anything definite to indicate that China is, in fact, moving forward on J-11D, hence the speculative nature of the article.

        Also, why do you put your own words in quotes? You know there is no point in that, right?

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        • BlackArcher
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          • Dec 2010
          • 4285

          Qatar to arm F-15QAs with Harpoon Block 2 AShM

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          • BlackArcher
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            • Dec 2010
            • 4285



            Antonov stalls An-132D programme

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            • BlackArcher
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Dec 2010
              • 4285

              Australia's EA-18G electronic attack capability achieves IOC

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                The JSM or LRASM would be a far better choice....

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                • halloweene
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 4350

                  Says the one who knows...All the reasons behind the choice.

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                  • haavarla
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 6695

                    Originally posted by Scooter View Post

                    The JSM or LRASM would be a far better choice....
                    Shouldn't USAF go first as a good example, start procuring JSM's.?
                    Thanks

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                    • BlackArcher
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 4285

                      US seeks to restart parts manufacture for Taiwanese F-5s

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                      • BlackArcher
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        USAF F-35A sees first combat action

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                        • BlackArcher
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4285

                          IDEF '19- Turkish Anka Aksungur to fly with Turkish engine by year end

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                          • BlackArcher
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            HJT-36 flight test resumption renews hope for Al-55I engine

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                            • XB-70
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                              • May 2018
                              • 350

                              I'll post a few Turkish articles and we'll see how Bayar's predictions turn out. Here's news on Hurjet passing its preliminary design review with first flight planned for mid 2022.

                              https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...gn-rev-457877/

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                              • XB-70
                                Rank 4 Registered User
                                • May 2018
                                • 350

                                Tyndall AFB repair work is stalling out.

                                https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019...cial-disaster/

                                Honestly, considering where Tyndall is, I don't see why the Government doesn't take the opportunity to downsize it and move assets elsewhere. It's always going to be at risk of storm damage and it's not like the Cubans are going to invade.

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                                • XB-70
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                                  • May 2018
                                  • 350

                                  The B-1 Lancer is back in the air.

                                  https://www.defensenews.com/newslett...rounding-ends/

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                                  • BlackArcher
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                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 4285

                                    RAF stands up 9 Squadron as latest Typhoon unit

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                                    • BlackArcher
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                                      • Dec 2010
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                                      China's stealth jet may be ready this year, says US Commander

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                                      • BlackArcher
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                                        • Dec 2010
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                                        South Korea test flying F-35A fighters

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                                        • BlackArcher
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                                          • Dec 2010
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                                          Pentagon Does Not See Path to Reduce F-35 Jet's Cost - Program Evaluation Director

                                          "The Department does not see a path to get to $25,000 per flying hour by FY 2025," Daigle told the US House of Representatives Subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces.

                                          The F-35A Joint Program Office, Daigle said, estimates the cost per flying hour for the F-35A variant of the aircraft in 2024 would be $34,000. "Our [Pentagon] estimate is $36,000 for the [F-35]A -- About the same," Daigle said.

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