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  • Tango III
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    • Sep 2006
    • 25370

    Don't worry go one page back
    http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...75#post2293475

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    • Tango III
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      • Sep 2006
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      Quick-thinking tanker crew saves F-16 pilot over ISIS-controlled territory

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      • Tango III
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        • Sep 2006
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        MiG-23 fighter shot down over Libya's Benghazi

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        • Tango III
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          • Sep 2006
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          Saudi deploys jets in Turkey for anti-IS fight

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          • Tango III
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            • Sep 2006
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            Up to eight Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, along with training, radar and other equipment, worth a total of $699 million.

            US approves F-16 sale to Pakistan

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            • Tango III
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              • Sep 2006
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              Boeing nears decision to self-fund more F/A-18 fighters

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              • Tango III
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                Japan Faces Challenging Choices for Cash-Strapped Air Force

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                • MSphere
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 8983

                  Rii is completely correct this time.. To sum the article up:

                  #1 whatever money you got, throw it at the F-35 (read buy from the US)
                  #2 the rest can go on F-15 upgrades (read buy from the US)
                  #3 for God's sake, don't upgrade the F-2s (read don't develop anything domestic)
                  #4 cancel that stupid X-2 so that you have more money for the F-35
                  #5 cancel the rest of your pathetic indigenous BS like C-2 or P-1, too (and buy something from the US)

                  Long story short - kill your own industry completely so that US can earn more..
                  Last edited by MSphere; 14th February 2016, 23:21.

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                  • Rii
                    Rii
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 3449

                    Originally posted by hopsalot
                    Another valuable contribution...
                    Well, if you insist...

                    JASDF may only be able to induct a handful of F-35s per year, but Japan's procurement will still be complete at least fifteen years before USAF's.

                    JASDFs F-15s may be old, but they're no older than USAF's F-15s and could well retire earlier too.

                    If JASDF's F-2s are trending towards obsolescence, I'm not sure what the appropriate adjectives would be for the bulk of US airpower: trending towards antiquity?

                    Japan doesn't have the funds to operate F-35Bs from Izumo or LHD-type vessels, but EMALS and a return to full-fledged fleet carriers is somehow on the cards? These analyst jobs can't be too hard to get.

                    And of course there's no reason to think that F-3 (if pursued) would be "second class" in any respect.
                    Last edited by Rii; 15th February 2016, 00:15.

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                    • Tango III
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                      • Sep 2006
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                      Boeing, U.S. Air Force Complete KC-46 Tanker Refueling Flight with F/A-18

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                      • Tango III
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                        • Sep 2006
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                        Super Tucanos Provide Major Boost to Afghanistan Air Force

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                        • Tango III
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          Why Skunk Works ditched its clean-sheet T-X for Korean T-50

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                          • Tango III
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                            • Sep 2006
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                            Unique Russian Aircraft Undergoes Test Flight

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                            • Spitfire9
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                              • Jul 2008
                              • 2846

                              "For its part, Kuwait has said it is sticking to plans to buy both the Boeing planes, and a separate deal for 28 Eurofighter jets. U.S. sources had expected the Boeing deal to win approval last year."

                              I'll be interested to see the number of Typhoon Kuwait signs for this week (assuming a contract is signed). If it is 28, I see Boeing as being in with a chance still.
                              Sum ergo cogito

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                              • Tango III
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                                • Sep 2006
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                                Poland Could Send Four F-16 Jets to Patrol Syrian Airspace

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                                • Tango III
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                                  • Sep 2006
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                                  AF Officials Announce FY 2017 Budget Force Structure Changes

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                                  • hopsalot
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                                    • Aug 2012
                                    • 3166

                                    It sounds like they were just too late...

                                    He says work ceased on the clean-sheet alternative in late 2015 with 80% of the detailed design work complete, approximately five years after the two-pronged approach to T-X was approved.

                                    “It’s in the DNA of the Skunk Works to design new airplanes," Weiss explais. “This was a very sweet airplane and folks were passionate about it. It was very capable and it would do everything the US Air Force was looking for in the T-X aircraft.

                                    ...


                                    Weiss says the clean-sheet alternative might have cost approximately eight times more to develop, without adding significant capability “beyond a modernised T-50”. Moreover, it would struggle to meet the air force’s recently revised initial operational capability (IOC) date of 2024.

                                    “Our team thought we had a really, really fine airplane . . . but it doesn’t do any more than the T-50 already does, so at the end of the day – it costs more, takes longer, has higher risk and without adding significant value beyond the T-50," Weiss says. “That baseline [T-50] aircraft has over 100,000 flight hours. It’s very mature. It’s trained more than 1,000 pilots today.”
                                    The Northrop Grumman and Boeing clean-sheet designs are both scheduled to fly this year. (potentially any day now in the NG case) It sounds like the LM clean-sheet design wasn't nearly as far along and hadn't even finished design, let along started manufacturing an airframe. It sounds like LM realize their in-house design was going to be too late to make the deadline and decided to go all-in with the T-50.

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                                    • Tango III
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                                      • Sep 2006
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                                      India Considers US Lockheed Martin Offer to Manufacture F-16 Fighter Jets

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                                      • hopsalot
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Aug 2012
                                        • 3166

                                        Here is a better source on the F-16 offer.

                                        http://m.economictimes.com/news/defe...w/50990890.cms

                                        Sounds like India will have a few options. If they could get over the pride aspect of buying a jet Pakistan already has the F-16 would make a lot of sense.

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                                        • Spitfire9
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Jul 2008
                                          • 2846

                                          Since I last looked on here 3 days ago it seems LM, Eurofighter, Boeing, SAAB have all of a sudden come up with offers to build or assemble aircraft in India. What happened to precipitate all these offers?
                                          Sum ergo cogito

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