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  • mrmalaya
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    #61
    No, you need to deal in fact not conspiracy. It is historical fact that the CIA can have had nothing to do with the creation of Wahabism, much as Jean Marie Le Pen (I pluck the name out of the air) cannot have written the Arabian Nights.

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    • Nicolas10
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      #62
      I think you are mixing up facts & beliefs. What makes you so confident in your own belief? Saw it in a James Bond movie?

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      • mrmalaya
        Generation 4.75+++

        #63
        Perhaps you could start up a thread in the Nicholas10 conspiracy section of this forum?

        I don't suppose Russia or Assad care whether French conspiracy theory misunderstands World History, and if it gives you some comfort to interpret an incredibly complicated situation in such a bizarre way, then I wish you well.

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        • Captain Ouuf
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          #64
          IMO Russia will not be bombing ISIS but rather they will bomb Nusra which have taken over Idlib. Idlib is crucial because it is right next to Latakia.
          Last edited by Captain Ouuf; 20th September 2015, 15:55.

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          • Nicolas10
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            #65
            Originally posted by mrmalaya View Post
            Perhaps you could start up a thread in the Nicholas10 conspiracy section of this forum?

            I don't suppose Russia or Assad care whether French conspiracy theory misunderstands World History, and if it gives you some comfort to interpret an incredibly complicated situation in such a bizarre way, then I wish you well.
            While you are only capable of quoting a bond movie, I gave you a couple of good sources to begin looking into middle eastern geopolitics. What you do with them is your own business, and I will leave it there in order not to pollute the thread with your sarcasm.

            Nic

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            • mrmalaya
              Generation 4.75+++

              #66
              No dear boy, the Bond reference (which you haven't bothered to look at) was linked to your view of media making events that's all. Don't hide behind it, go and read your history of the Arab People then come back to Syria.
              Last edited by mrmalaya; 20th September 2015, 16:31.

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              • mrmalaya
                Generation 4.75+++

                #67
                If Russia openly start bombing anyone it will make management of the airspace interesting though won't it?

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                • Nicolas10
                  Senior Member

                  #68
                  I never claimed anything wrt the situation in Syria, I just countered the argument that Russia had nothing to do with fundamental islam.

                  Nic

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                  • Captain Ouuf
                    Rank 4 Registered User

                    #69
                    Originally posted by mrmalaya View Post
                    If Russia openly start bombing anyone it will make management of the airspace interesting though won't it?

                    No because the US don't bomb Nusra and Russia don't bomb ISIS. They won't be crossing paths. The US will operate in eastern Syria. Russia will operate in Idlib.

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                    • mrmalaya
                      Generation 4.75+++

                      #70
                      They have to coordinate in that sort of situation. Whilst we all want the great powers to be buddies, it's certainly a novel situation with no clear end game and lots of potential for misunderstandings.

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                      • Captain Ouuf
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by mrmalaya View Post
                        They have to coordinate in that sort of situation. Whilst we all want the great powers to be buddies, it's certainly a novel situation with no clear end game and lots of potential for misunderstandings.
                        Buddies? Yea right. Russia and the US are state enemies.

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                        • haavarla
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                          #72
                          Yes.. But who is Gondor and who is Mordor here..?
                          The lines are so blurred these days..
                          Thanks

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                          • Captain Ouuf
                            Rank 4 Registered User

                            #73
                            Originally posted by haavarla View Post
                            Yes.. But who is Gondor and who is Mordor here..?
                            The lines are so blurred these days..
                            Both are good.

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                            • mrmalaya
                              Generation 4.75+++

                              #74
                              But how do the Coaltion and Russia/Syrian government pick targets? How do they operate alongside each other when they are so wary of the other side watching what they do and how they do it? Who points the finger when there are civilian casualties from the Russian air strikes?

                              Is it really likely that Russia will actively get its military involved in anything other than carving out an enclave for Assad?

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                              • mikoyan
                                Rank 5 Registered User

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Nicolas10 View Post
                                Are you kidding? Wahabbism was created by the CIA especially to destabilize the Russian islamic republics.

                                Nic
                                Wahhabism was created by Muhhamad Wahhab in the 1700s, this dude hardly qualifies as a CIA assett.

                                Now, the fact that later in history they were used by americans to get the russians should be no surprise, their fanaticism was well known.

                                Where them beloved americans fvucked up was in the foresight department, blowback effect and all

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                                • Captain Ouuf
                                  Rank 4 Registered User

                                  #76
                                  Originally posted by mrmalaya View Post
                                  But how do the Coaltion and Russia/Syrian government pick targets? How do they operate alongside each other when they are so wary of the other side watching what they do and how they do it? Who points the finger when there are civilian casualties from the Russian air strikes?

                                  Is it really likely that Russia will actively get its military involved in anything other than carving out an enclave for Assad?
                                  Syrian soldiers on the ground call in airstrikes. Su-30SMs blast with PGMs. Assad will never give up Idlib. It's too close to Latakia for comfort.

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                                  • TR1
                                    TR1
                                    http://tiny.cc/tp8kd

                                    #77
                                    Originally posted by Austin View Post
                                    ISIS is not Russias problem they never threatned to invade or attack Russia , so whats the point attacking team , its like making enemies when there is none.
                                    ISIS already considers Russia an enemy, Wahhabism has already come to Kavkaz unfortunately, and Russia has already been supplying Iraq with weapons explicitly to kill ISIS.
                                    This changes nothing from an ISIS in relation to dislking Russia.

                                    Also, there are thousands of Russian citizens (from Kavkaz, particularly Chechnya) who has unfortunately joined ISIS and AL-nusra and other extremists in the region.
                                    So it is a Russian problem in a serious way.

                                    I don't want those people coming back to a region that is 100 miles from Mahachkala, Dagestan where my family lives.
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                                    • Nicolas10
                                      Senior Member

                                      #78
                                      Originally posted by mikoyan View Post
                                      Wahhabism was created by Muhhamad Wahhab in the 1700s, this dude hardly qualifies as a CIA assett.

                                      Now, the fact that later in history they were used by americans to get the russians should be no surprise, their fanaticism was well known.

                                      Where them beloved americans fvucked up was in the foresight department, blowback effect and all
                                      Yeah they didn't "invent" it per se, but they are the ones who made it relevant again in order to p1ss in Russian cornflakes.

                                      Nic

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                                      • TR1
                                        TR1
                                        http://tiny.cc/tp8kd

                                        #79
                                        Originally posted by Berkut View Post

                                        Seriously tho; what IS happening? Is it just Russia giving a hug to Assad (**** that) or will they actively pound ISIS? (**** yeah) If the later, it would make more sense to send over Su-34's, as good as Su-30SM's are.
                                        Tu-22M3M .


                                        Actually that would be great to see- with external pod + huge load of precision munitions.

                                        The feet dragging with both by the MOD is going to be a handycap right now, unless they start rushing orders for combat testing.
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                                        • TR1
                                          TR1
                                          http://tiny.cc/tp8kd

                                          #80
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=6JYEmXJ60Yc

                                          Supposedly over Homs.

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=51&v=2Ksdh38h5-I

                                          Yesterday and today.
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