Iran to buy 150 J-10

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Didn't see any threads on it, so here:
http://www.ibtimes.com/china-iran-weigh-1-billion-deal-swap-chengdu-j-10-fighter-jets-major-oil-field-2042356

Personally I don't think it's a very good idea, air power is the West's forte.
It's not a field where Iran can hope to pose any threat, between the F-22 dominating the skies and cruise missiles/UCAVs bombing any air fields with impunity, the J-10s would quickly run out of places (from) where they can operate.
For day to day air force tasks (hunting UAVs), Iran's aging aircraft inventory still does the trick.

Iran would be better off to invest in non-traditional forms of warfare, like cyberwarfare and scuds, that can do a lot more damage to the West and any ships trying to force open a naval blockade.
And yes nukes. No nuclear capable country has ever been invaded in all-out war.

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Didn't see any threads on it, so here:
http://www.ibtimes.com/china-iran-weigh-1-billion-deal-swap-chengdu-j-10-fighter-jets-major-oil-field-2042356

Personally I don't think it's a very good idea, air power is the West's forte.
It's not a field where Iran can hope to pose any threat, between the F-22 dominating the skies and cruise missiles/UCAVs bombing any air fields with impunity, the J-10s would quickly run out of places (from) where they can operate.
For day to day air force tasks (hunting UAVs), Iran's aging aircraft inventory still does the trick.

Iran would be better off to invest in non-traditional forms of warfare, like cyberwarfare and scuds, that can do a lot more damage to the West and any ships trying to force open a naval blockade.
And yes nukes. No nuclear capable country has ever been invaded in all-out war.

Seems speculative. Yet to see any serious publication saying such a deal is even being negotiated, let alone finalized

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150 J-10 is a working counter to Israel strikes,
only nukes with a reliable delivery can deter USA

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How ironic - J-10 coming home to roost next to Israel, where it was, supposedly, designed (as the IAI Lavi).

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Didn't see any threads on it, so here:
http://www.ibtimes.com/china-iran-weigh-1-billion-deal-swap-chengdu-j-10-fighter-jets-major-oil-field-2042356

Personally I don't think it's a very good idea, air power is the West's forte.
It's not a field where Iran can hope to pose any threat, between the F-22 dominating the skies and cruise missiles/UCAVs bombing any air fields with impunity, the J-10s would quickly run out of places (from) where they can operate.
For day to day air force tasks (hunting UAVs), Iran's aging aircraft inventory still does the trick.

Iran would be better off to invest in non-traditional forms of warfare, like cyberwarfare and scuds, that can do a lot more damage to the West and any ships trying to force open a naval blockade.
And yes nukes. No nuclear capable country has ever been invaded in all-out war.

Very true.

The only reason for such a buy would be to ensure that ONLY US could undertake the mission you mentioned above.

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The only reason for such a buy would be to ensure that ONLY US could undertake the mission you mentioned above.

ah good point but
a) I don't thinkIsrael would actually attack Iran, that'd be extremely risky, if only because it's such a long flight
b) even 150 J-10s or S-400 would be of limited use against Israel, because they would counter them some way or another
for example how Israel started using UAVs back in the 70's to defeat its enemies' advanced defences
in the same way Israel could use a number of unconventional strategies and tactics if it did want to attack Iran. contrary to the US, which mainly relies on traditional and thus predictable tactics and assets
except maybe UCAVs, but who's to say Israel doesn't have those as well? they are the world's foremost UAV builder, and stealth technology can't be very hard for them to develop or copy from others

edit: discussion on Israeli stealth UCAVs, something I disagreed with at the time :p
http://aviationintel.com/israel-developing-a-stealth-ucav/

edit2: thinking some more about it, a stealthy UCAV would allow Israel to attack Iran effectively, as it has range, expendability and a relatively low cost
and would make J-10s pretty much useless

edit3: article explaining how IAI has been working on stealth since the 1990's
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/israel-working-on-low-observable-uav-379564/

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Where do you take the number 150 from? The posted article says no such thing...
It's 24 machines being mentioned, not 150..

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It will take days of massive bombardment for a meaningful damage to Iranian nuclear installations. That is well beyond Israel's capability at the moment and 150 additional J10B with AESA will make it even more difficult.

UCAVs and other methods might be able to lob a dozen or so bombs on few sites but that is not going to stop Iranians. J10s are for a defensive nature in Iran - Israel scenario, for retaliation Iran already has Israel surrounded on 3 sides with militant groups willing to lob long range rockets on Israeli cities on demand.

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The source is Taiwan's Want Daily, are these the same people as Want China Times?

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The source is Taiwan's Want Daily, are these the same people as Want China Times?

I'd take anything from Want China Times with a grain of sand.