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  • Tango III
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    • Sep 2006
    • 25360

    Libya attack: French soldiers killed in Benghazi helicopter crash

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    • TomcatViP
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      • Nov 2011
      • 6008

      Accidental cause confirmed by the Fr president Himself after his defense speaker acknowledged earlier the shot down. I guess that some were not happy to let go a Sa7 claims for a SOF helicopter with its extended sophisticated defense suite.
      Probably another MGB failure hence (Fr armed force still fly their Puma and Cougar despite 80% of the world fleet being grounded.

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      • TomcatViP
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        • Nov 2011
        • 6008

        Accidental cause confirmed by the Fr president Himself after his defense speaker acknowledged earlier the shot down. I guess that some were not happy to let go a Sa7 claims for a SOF helicopter with its extended sophisticated defense suite.
        Probably another MGB failure hence (Fr armed force still fly their Puma and Cougar despite 80% of the world fleet being grounded.

        Edit:
        “It was due to technical failure and was not shot down,” said a Libyan soldier allied with the Bedya faction. The soldier, who is part of a tank brigade fighting in Benghazi, said the chopper was heading toward the front-line but crashed shortly after takeoff.
        A witness on the ground

        And how it was reported to the AFP that was the first to release the news:
        Un membre des forces spciales du gnral Khalifa Haftar a affirm l'AFP que les soldats franais tus taient des "conseillers". Les combattants qui ont vis l'hlicoptre M17 "essaient de nous attaquer depuis l'ouest de Benghazi afin de pntrer dans la ville et d'y stopper notre avance", a ajout un autre commandant oprant sous les ordres du gnral Haftar.
        I understand M17 as designating a Mi17.

        EDIT2:
        However, the next day, FrAF went on an alleged retaliation strike (read here).

        two Libyan officials said the French bombings were in retaliation for the deaths of the French special forces. The bombings targeted a district called al-Magrun and its surroundings east of Benghazi, where Hifter has been fighting the Islamic militias known as Benghazi Defense Brigade, they said.
        [...]
        France did not immediately confirm the bombings, which the two Libyan officials said forced the militias to retreat toward the town of Ajdabiya, west of Benghazi.

        Source:
        The Washington Post
        Last edited by TomcatViP; 22nd July 2016, 21:36.

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        • Tango III
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          • Sep 2006
          • 25360

          The US May Finally Get a Cheap Alternative to the $70 Million V-22 Osprey

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          • BlackArcher
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Dec 2010
            • 4235

            More bad news for Airbus Helicopters Super Puma family

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            • Tango III
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              • Sep 2006
              • 25360

              Shot down or crashes?

              Two Saudi army pilots die in Apache crash inside Yemen

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              • Tango III
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Sep 2006
                • 25360

                UK Gazelle helicopters to have lives extended until 2025

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                • Tango III
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 25360

                  US Presidential Helo Moves to Production Phase

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                  • halloweene
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 4326

                    Originally posted by TomcatViP View Post
                    Accidental cause confirmed by the Fr president Himself after his defense speaker acknowledged earlier the shot down. I guess that some were not happy to let go a Sa7 claims for a SOF helicopter with its extended sophisticated defense suite.
                    Probably another MGB failure hence (Fr armed force still fly their Puma and Cougar despite 80% of the world fleet being grounded.
                    Any link about defence speaker saying that???
                    Btw the chopper was a lybian Mi... Search and you will find photos.

                    Stop spreading groundless rumours (i'm polite)?

                    Btw the soldiers weren't special forces but CPIS... (DGSE service action).
                    Last edited by halloweene; 26th July 2016, 01:06.

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                    • TomcatViP
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 6008

                      Mi 17. Written above
                      Shot down assumption -> read the press
                      DGSE yes, we learned afterwards

                      And Mr Hollow, stop bullying my avatar and depicting me like this way. You are ridiculous. You can't understand what you can't figure. This is a trait of dumb people, should I remind you?
                      Last edited by TomcatViP; 26th July 2016, 03:01.

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                      • halloweene
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4326

                        I'm dubious : firstly you accused AH problems, then extended sophisticated defense suite etc. Sorry if you did not intend to bash, but it really looked like so... The history have nothing to do with airbus helicopters.

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                        • TomcatViP
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 6008

                          Bashing and putting down data to figure the facts are two different things. Caracal is the main SOF helo, no? That would have seemed a better choice for them. But would that be anti-Fr to say so?

                          We try to understand here... And to spare our time, care to share a link to that video?
                          Last edited by TomcatViP; 26th July 2016, 03:32.

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                          • BlackArcher
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 4235

                            Saudi Arabia says Apache crashed in Yemen, killing both crew
                            Last edited by BlackArcher; 26th July 2016, 18:22.

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                            • BlackArcher
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 4235

                              Future of Super Puma in doubt- Aviation Week blog

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                              • Nicolas10
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2005
                                • 4523

                                Originally posted by TomcatViP View Post
                                Accidental cause confirmed by the Fr president Himself
                                ROFL

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                                • Tango III
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Sep 2006
                                  • 25360

                                  The Sikorsky S-92 helicopter will be the basis for the new Marine One.​

                                  The President's New Helicopter Fleet Close to First Flight

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                                  • BlackArcher
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 4235

                                    UK Gazelle helicopters to have lives extended until 2025

                                    ..
                                    The AAC currently operates a fleet of 34 Gazelles spread between a flight in Canada supporting the Suffield training site, manned aerial surveillance tasks with 5 Regiment AAC at Aldergrove airport in Northern Ireland, and special forces support at RAF Odiham in Hampshire. Training takes place at the Army Aviation Centre at Middle Wallop in Hampshire.

                                    According to data released by the MoD in March, some 15 Gazelle were routinely undergoing maintenance and 19 in daily use.
                                    Just about 55% available at any given time.

                                    And someone was presenting pearls of wisdom about "overhauls not equating to maintenance" or that companies do not perform maintenance, on another thread..apparently someone needs to inform Cobham and Airbus Helicopters that whatever they've been doing with the Gazelle fleet isn't actually MRO, its something else.


                                    Depth maintenance support and overhauls are currently provided by Cobham Aviation Services and Airbus Helicopters have a contract to provide post-design services (PDS) and logistic support for Gazelle. Leonardo Helicopters (formerly AgustaWestland) also provide PDS support for the UK-specific parts of the aircraft and Safran Helicopters provide PDS and logistic support to the engine.
                                    Last edited by BlackArcher; 29th July 2016, 03:23.

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                                    • Tango III
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Sep 2006
                                      • 25360

                                      Marines Corps general calls for optionally manned helicopter

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                                      • Tango III
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Sep 2006
                                        • 25360

                                        Croatia receives first OH-58 Kiowa helicopters

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                                        • Tango III
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Sep 2006
                                          • 25360

                                          Final Australian MH-60R Seahawk delivered

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