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  • Scooter
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jan 2000
    • 11831

    Odds are good the USAF will replace the three remaining F-15C Squadrons (2-Kadena and 1-Lakenheath) with the F-35A. While, the ANG F-15C's will be replaced with upgraded F-16's. Which, are quickly becoming surplus as new F-35's come online....
    F-35 Lightning II

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    • TomcatViP
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Nov 2011
      • 5759

      Although the intend is pretty straightforward to understand, the switch of attention from middle-east to the vast Pacific zone of operation could slow this process. Eagles are more relevant and upgraded ones even more (fast pack - CFT) due to their superior range. The increased savings due to lower supportive operation cost might sound counter-intuitive to many but could prove ultimately fundamental. Add to that the increased threat on tanker operations that pushes them farthest from operating zones and we might see the USAF/ANG turned into a long[er] range airforce (at least for their non-stealthy components]
      Last edited by TomcatViP; 17th January 2019, 11:14.

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      • St. John
        Rank 4 Registered User
        • Jan 2018
        • 470

        Odds are good the USAF will replace the three remaining F-15C Squadrons (2-Kadena and 1-Lakenheath) with the F-35A. While, the ANG F-15C's will be replaced with upgraded F-16's. Which, are quickly becoming surplus as new F-35's come online....
        I was under the impression that two of those 3 squadrons are F-15E squadrons.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/48th_Fighter_Wing

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        • FBW
          FBW
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Dec 2011
          • 3034

          I was under the impression that two of those 3 squadrons are F-15E squadrons.
          There are for the 48th. What he was saying was that there are 3 USAF F-15C squadrons; 1 at Lakenheath with the 48th FW and 2 in Okinawa with the 18th wing.

          Currently two F-35A squadrons will join the 48th starting in 2020-21. The F-15C squadron was to be cut, but received a reprieve due to Ukraine crisis. Likely, the F-15C squadron will depart when the F-35A squadrons are stood up, no definite word on the F-15E squadrons at Lakenheath (they may stay).
          Last edited by FBW; 17th January 2019, 15:53.

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          • TomcatViP
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Nov 2011
            • 5759

            Regarding the simultaneous emergency landing at Okinawa yesterday, AirforceTimes.com have some details:

            The pair of F-15s that landed at Kadena [...] had different mechanical problems. One had an unsafe gear indication, [Pacific Air Forces spokeswoman Capt. Victoria] Hight said, and the other had a hydraulic issue.

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            • Sintra
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2007
              • 3793

              And the entire "Light Attack" thingy just went "T**s up"...

              https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019...-indefinitely/
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              • Scooter
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2000
                • 11831

                TomcatViP

                Although the intend is pretty straightforward to understand, the switch of attention from middle-east to the vast Pacific zone of operation could slow this process. Eagles are more relevant and upgraded ones even more (fast pack - CFT) due to their superior range. The increased savings due to lower supportive operation cost might sound counter-intuitive to many but could prove ultimately fundamental. Add to that the increased threat on tanker operations that pushes them farthest from operating zones and we might see the USAF/ANG turned into a long[er] range airforce (at least for their non-stealthy components]
                Sorry, the F-15C doesn't have more range than the F-35A. This is supported by comments made by Lt. Col. Scott CAP Gunn (USAF), the commander of the 33rd Operational Support Squadron at Eglin AFB, Florida. (former F-15C Eagle Pilot) He stated the F-35A had much more range than an F-15C with two external fuel tanks...


                Also, as long as we are on the subject the first female F-35A pilot Lt. Col. Christine Mau (USAF), 33rd Fighter Wing Operations Group deputy commander. Also, stated the F-35A had more range than the F-15E. (her former ride)
                F-35 Lightning II

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                • St. John
                  Rank 4 Registered User
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 470

                  There are for the 48th. What he was saying was that there are 3 USAF F-15C squadrons; 1 at Lakenheath with the 48th FW and 2 in Okinawa with the 18th wing.

                  Currently two F-35A squadrons will join the 48th starting in 2020-21. The F-15C squadron was to be cut, but received a reprieve due to Ukraine crisis. Likely, the F-15C squadron will depart when the F-35A squadrons are stood up, no definite word on the F-15E squadrons at Lakenheath (they may stay).
                  Orrr.... Can't Lakenheath have an F-22 squadron instead? Go on, just one.

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                  • TomcatViP
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 5759

                    Originally posted by Scooter
                    Sorry, the F-15C doesn't have more range than the F-35A.
                    Sorry but that is not what I said. I am talking about non-stealthy platform and especially made a comparison b/w the Viper and the Eagle; what was relevant with the conversation.

                    The fact is that F-15 and F-16 are both in number in the inventory. The goal is to envision what would be the cheapest airframe to maintain in the long term in the relevant predicted scenario for the USAF/ANG. It could be that in the face of the vast empty spaces of the Pacific theater, keeping the F-15 instead of the cheaper per airframe F-16 might be relevant.
                    We are not talking of the benefices of the old Eagles Vs new F-35.

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                    • paralay
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1333

                      Range:
                      F-35A - 2752 km
                      F-15C - 2200 km (without external tanks)
                      - 2850 km (1 DT)
                      - 3500 km (2 DT)
                      F-15E - 1500 km (without external tanks)
                      - 2800 km (3 DT)

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                      • Marcellogo
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 1773

                        F-15E are with or without conformal ones?
                        Given that no one of them have ever operatively flied without them on, such datas, like the one on max speed, should be taken with a ton of salt.

                        About substitution/passage to ANG seems me that the most probable thing is that they are determined by the average age/weariness of the planes and not by type, so F-35A would substitute the older ones i.e. the F-15C first and not the F-16 and the A-10 as was thought.

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                        • SolarWarden
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • May 2015
                          • 237

                          paralay

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xhq...M_AaXs-5Q&t=0s

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                          • paralay
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 1333

                            what he say? I don't speak English

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                            • Scooter
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Jan 2000
                              • 11831

                              paralay

                              Range:
                              F-35A - 2752 km
                              F-15C - 2200 km (without external tanks)
                              - 2850 km (1 DT)
                              - 3500 km (2 DT)
                              F-15E - 1500 km (without external tanks)
                              - 2800 km (3 DT)
                              Clearly, your information is inaccurate. Yet, most open source information on the web is.....(sadly)
                              F-35 Lightning II

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                              • bring_it_on
                                2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 12301

                                Roper: Hypersonics Capability Less Than Two Years Away

                                Last edited by bring_it_on; 10th February 2019, 05:23.
                                Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                • garryA
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Dec 2015
                                  • 1078

                                  I wish tactical aircraft can launch TBG but that seem unlikely

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                                  • bring_it_on
                                    2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 12301

                                    Placing design, size and performance limitations on the weapon (by optimizing for tactical fighter carriage) when ample number of long range strike bombers are available and in the pipeline would have been quite stupid decision. There are other programs at or in the same TRL ballpark that will be more suitable for tactical fighter carriage so there is no pressure to field an AL BGV that is performance limited because of fighter carriage optimization.
                                    Last edited by bring_it_on; 17th February 2019, 20:40.
                                    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                    • garryA
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Dec 2015
                                      • 1078

                                      Originally posted by bring_it_on View Post
                                      Placing design, size and performance limitations on the weapon (by optimizing for tactical fighter carriage) when ample number of long range strike bombers are available and in the pipeline would have been quite stupid decision. There are other programs at or in the same TRL ballpark that will be more suitable for tactical fighter carriage so there is no pressure to field an AL BGV that is performance limited because of fighter carriage optimization.
                                      Is there any hyper sonic weapon available for tactical fighter carriage?

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                                      • moon_light
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • May 2012
                                        • 930

                                        I recall reading here that LM made a ground launched version of CUDA, under different name, but i can't seem to find the article anymore, can anyone help?

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