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  • bring_it_on
    2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

    The ANG was never expected to get the Silent Eagle upgrades. And drag is relative. If they need the additional fuel for their future mission needs then they would need to show that the CFTs are lower drag than carrying bags. If so, it makes sense.
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    • haavarla
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      Perhaps people confuse ANG getting Golden Eagle, not Silent Eagle..

      Drag is relative indeed. But think having fuel internal, bypassing CFT and EFT is the most efficient between the three of them.

      Anyway, Golden Eagle is the F-15C.
      Silent Eagle was to be an incarnation of F-15E.

      The country currently flying to most advanced Eagle, is Saudi Arabia with their F-15SA.
      Last edited by haavarla; 12th February 2018, 18:31.
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      • bring_it_on
        2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

        Drag is relative indeed. But think having fuel internal, bypassing CFT and EFT is the most efficient between the three of them.
        This is obviously not an option. We are talking about existing ANG F-15Cs here, not buying new aircraft.

        The country currently flying to most advanced Eagle, is Saudi Arabia with their F-15SA.
        Correct. Over the next few years (By early 2020s) the USAF will finish its own planned upgrades on its F-15E featuring AN/APG-82(V)1's (current upgrades are proceeding at 32 radar installs per year, for a total of 217 on contract) and around the same time EPAWSS will also begin replacing the legacy TEWS. The mission-computer upgrades are also underway so SAs will have some competition. The Qataris too have on order similar F-15Es to the SA configuration other than the cockpit, where they have gone in for the wide area displays instead of the conventional layout. Boeing is currently lobbying the USAF to also include the cockpit upgrades to its F-15E fleet but so far no formal program exists. The Sniper ATP is also currently going through an upgrade. They also have full operational capability with the JASSM-ER, and will get the SDB-IIs soon.

        Att. AN/APG-82 program schedule...
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        • haavarla
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          Does the EPAWSS include the new FBW used by the F-15SA?
          Thanks

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          • bring_it_on
            2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

            Air Force budget request would buy 48 F-35As and boost major research and development efforts


            The Air Force's $156.3 billion fiscal year 2019 budget proposal calls for 48 new F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, 15 KC-46 aerial refuelers and 36,000 Joint Direct Attack Munitions.

            The budget request would provide $25.7 billion for the service's procurement account -- up from $24.8 billion in the FY-18 request -- and $30.4 billion for research and development in a $6 billion increase over its FY-18 request, according to overview documents released today. It also includes $49.9 billion for operations and maintenance -- up from $49.2 billion in the FY-18 request -- and $3.1 billion to fund 98 new-start programs.

            The service would boost its Overseas Contingency Operations account from $13.9 billion to $15.6 billion as well.

            The 48 F-35As requested aligns with the Air Force's procurement plan laid out in the FY-18 request. Officials have said increasing annual quantities is a priority, but budget constraints have limited the service from achieving its near-term goal to buy 60 jets per year.

            Other notable aircraft procurements highlighted in the overview documents include $680 million to buy 10 Combat Rescue Helicopters and 29 MQ-9A Reapers -- 21 funded through OCO and the rest in the base budget.

            The request also includes $336 million for F-16 modifications and kicks off a multiyear procurement effort for one HC-130J and six MC-130J airlifters.

            In its latest move to boost the weapons cache, the service requests an increase of 36,000 Joint Direct Attack Munitions from about 27,300 the previous year, and about 4,400 Hellfire missiles, up from around 3,600 in FY-18. Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile procurement remains stable at 222 units, compared to 205 requested in FY-18, as does procurement for the extended-range Joint Air-to-Surface Missile at 360 units. Small Diameter Bomb I and II procurement remains about the same at nearly 7,300 units between the two variants.

            This year's request reflects a decline in unclassified space procurement funds, from $3.3 billion in FY-18 to $2.5 billion in FY-19, though a significant portion of the service's space budget is classified. The request would fund five Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle missions and two weather space vehicle relay ground stations, according to the overview.

            The Air Force's request would grow several research and development efforts, proposing $2.3 billion for the B-21 bomber, up $300 million from the FY-18 request; $265 million for the next-generation T-X trainer; and $280 million for upgrades to the B-52 bomber, which includes funds to start a re-engining program.

            Funding for the Next-Generation Air Dominance family of systems would increase from $335 million in FY-18 to $550 million in the FY-19 proposal. The documents state that the funds would support a five-year effort to develop "an integrated family of systems that can establish and maintain air superiority in a contested environment."

            "This will be a multidomain effort with a renewed emphasis on electronic warfare and control of the electromagnetic spectrum," the documents state.

            For space programs, the R&D request proposes $643 million for a next-generation overhead persistent infrared program that would replenish the Space-Based Infrared System constellation and $452 million for the service's GPS III Follow-On effort.

            The overview documents also offer insight into the service's path to improve battle management and command-and-control capabilities as it abandons the E-8C Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System recapitalization program. Air Force Under Secretary Matthew Donovan confirmed during a Feb. 12 Air Force Association event the service will not request funds for the recap effort.

            Instead, the Air Force asks for $5.8 million to fund "advanced battle management and surveillance bridge capabilities" as a new start on the E-3 Airborne Warning and Control System. Other new-start requests include $91.1 million for sensor enhancements, $68 million for agile communications and $43.7 million for the Advanced Synthetic Aperture Radar System 2B sensor.
            Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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            • bring_it_on
              2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

              Does the EPAWSS include the new FBW used by the F-15SA?
              EPAWSS is a GaN Based Active/Passive Electronic Warfare suite.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lluNa_BIrpg

              At the moment, the USAF is not interested in either FBW, or an engine performance upgraded on its Strike Eagle fleet.
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              • haavarla
                Rank 5 Registered User

                Alright. Guess the USAF F-15's do not see the need for an extra wing pylon then..
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                • halloweene
                  Rank 5 Registered User

                  GaN based? Good
                  F-15 needed a spectra like stuff )

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                  • bring_it_on
                    2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                    GaN based? Good
                    F-15 needed a spectra like stuff )
                    It's been known for a long time, and details on this are shared about a dozen (or more) pages back.

                    lright. Guess the USAF F-15's do not see the need for an extra wing pylon then..
                    Not at this time. But there are a lot of frames with a lot of life left in them so things could be added in the future.
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                    • halloweene
                      Rank 5 Registered User

                      I knew about EWPASS, not about GaN modules (anyway quite logic for new system).

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                      • bring_it_on
                        2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                        Posted earlier in the thread....

                        One of the questions surrounding the design of EPAWSS has been the choice of technology that would be used to power the system’s jammer transmitters, whether a solid-state amplifier approach or more conventional traveling wave tube (TWT) technology. Walters answers that question saying BAE’s approach is a GaN-based solid-state amplifier design.
                        https://www.scribd.com/doc/291713432...TQXB2zZ1ogDFNA

                        @haavarla, the aim with F-15E modernization is two pronged i.e. to make it more survivable, and more lethal. The former comes with EPAWSS while the latter comes via a mix of processor, weapons, and sensor upgrades. I wouldn't be surprised if the F-15E is also the initial/threshold platform of choice for the Hypersonic Air Breathing Weapon (and its offshoots) that will begin flight testing in a year or two.
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                        • bring_it_on
                          2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                          Some USAF Budget summaries. Also, overall aircraft procurement. 101 fighters to be procured in FY19 up 17 from FY18.
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                          • F/A-XX
                            Rank 5 Registered User

                            I noticed the first summary mentions the F-16E, I thought the USAF didn't procure any of those?

                            "Air Superiority Family of Systems", I hate such phrasing. We can't we call a program for a new fighter what it is?

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                            • Freehand
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                              Lockheed-Martin could be doing some upgrade work for the UAEAF.

                              https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com...n-fleet-04538/

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                              • bring_it_on
                                2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                                "Air Superiority Family of Systems", I hate such phrasing. We can't we call a program for a new fighter what it is?
                                Because that is likely not the only thing that is funded under this effort. The full USAF budget is not out (hopefully we will see those RDTE details by later today) but the current funding level under the line item is likely meant to be used for multiple efforts, which likely includes an aircraft, under the larger umbrella of air-superiority. There was plenty of this sort of stuff spread around in the FY18 budget request last year, from everything from conformal load bearing antennas, to inlets and exhaust research and prototyping for future fighter aircraft, to next generation infra-red search and track sensors and even next-generation weapons and High Energy Laser applications. AS2030 focused on other aspects of the mission and not strictly a platform, so it is logical that the investment also focus on multiple things under the broader effort.
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                                • bring_it_on
                                  2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                                  Att. is the budget allocation for the Next Generation Air Dominance capabilities and technologies. Overall investment across the FYDP (FY19-FY23) stands at roughly $10 Billion (R&D) including a new A2A weapon development among other technologies. R&D funding spikes from $22 Million in FY17 to > $500 Million in FY19 and will be >$3 Billion in FY2022. Some of the FY18 and 19 funding is towards building "demonstrative prototypes".

                                  In addition, technical risk reduction activities will be performed
                                  to include experimentation, integration and building demonstrative prototypes.
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                                  • bring_it_on
                                    2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                                    ..
                                    Title: Air Launched Rapid response Weapon (ARRW)
                                    Description: Integrates Air Force and DARPA enabled system technologies into a prototype that will
                                    demonstrate the viability of this concept to be fielded as a long range prompt strike capability. ARRW will
                                    design, develop, manufacture, and test, a number of prototype vehicles to inform decisions concerning ARRW
                                    acquisition and production.

                                    ARRW Aquisition Strategy - The Air Force applied funding to an existing DARPA other transaction authority contract to Lockheed Martin in order to leverage the synergistic efforts ongoing in the Tactical Boost Glide technology demonstration. The cost type contract incentives schedule through milestone payments. The government agency responsible for managing this program is the Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Armament Directorate, Eglin AFB FL.

                                    HCSW - The Air Force is conducting a limited source competition for the rapid development of a hypersonic, conventional air-launched, stand-off weapon. An IDIQ contract will be awarded to a single offeror to develop/test all elements of the end-to-end system, integration with existing bomber/fighter Aircraft, all respective operations/mission planning and sustainment efforts, to include operational safety, suitability, and effectiveness. Contract award is anticipated in the second quarter of FY 2018. The government agency responsible for managing this program is the Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Armament Directorate, Eglin AFB FL.
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                                    • bring_it_on
                                      2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                                      Finally an A&D media/industry outlet spots the difference in the the FY18 to 19 transition. It was pretty well known that last year's budget used placeholders for the FYDP which has now been firmed up. Also of note, the AOA on the Joint Airborne Electronic Attack effort is also expected to conclude in 19 so expect quite a few new starts to appear in the FY20 budget.

                                      Air Force's five-year spending plan more than doubles funding for Next-Gen Air Dominance


                                      The Air Force's budget outlook for Next-Generation Air Dominance has nearly doubled in its fiscal year 2019 funding request, which proposes $9.8 billion over the next five years to support continued experimentation and risk reduction for a new air dominance family of systems.

                                      The budget request, released this week, proposes $503 million for the effort in FY-19 -- a slight drop from the $507 million projected in last year's request -- which would more than double in FY-20 to $1.3 billion. Funding would grow to $2 billion in FY-21, $3.1 billion in FY-22 and $2.8 billion in FY-23 under the Air Force's plan.

                                      The increase in projected funding comes after last year's budget request programmed about $4.5 billion for NGAD across the future years defense program -- a steep jump compared to previous projections and an indication the service is eyeing contracts for risk-reduction and experimentation work. The FY-17 budget request called for just $20 million for NGAD and projected it would require only $12.8 million in FY-18 and FY-19.

                                      Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson told reporters Feb. 13 the funding increase for NGAD -- as well as increases in spending for fourth-generation aircraft modernization and multidomain command and control -- better aligns the service with the newly released National Defense Strategy, which emphasizes increased lethality in order to counter growing threats from Russia and China. Air Force spokesman Ann Stefanek told Inside Defense that while the service was already projecting measured investments in those areas, the increases in this year's budget can be directly tied to the NDS.

                                      The Air Force has been exploring options for a new air dominance capability since at least 2011, when the Pentagon approved a requirement for a follow-on to the F-22. In 2016, as part of its renewed developmental planning effort, the service completed a study that considered the capabilities needed to maintain air dominance against future threats.

                                      That study identified a need for a penetrating counter air capability -- which aligned with ongoing NGAD investment -- and kicked off an analysis of alternatives, which should be completed in the third quarter of FY-18.

                                      The FY-19 budget divides NGAD funding into two lines of effort -- one focused on the air system and the other on a next-generation air-to-air weapon. Air Force Budget Deputy Carolyn Gleason and Deputy Assistant Secretary for Budget Maj. Gen. John Pletcher told reporters Feb. 12 that FY-19 funds would be used to complete the NGAD analysis of alternatives, which is informing both efforts. The AOA will lead to decisions on how to proceed with experimentation and early development work, she said.

                                      Pletcher noted that the service is still determining what an NGAD family of systems will look like and whether it will require a new platform for penetrating counter-air.

                                      "I think the analysis of alternatives is designed to tell us what we need, what that family of systems looks like," he said. "It could be a platform. It could be something else. That's the intent of the analysis of alternatives."
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                                      • bring_it_on
                                        2005-year of the RAPTOR!!

                                        Both DARPA's Tactical Boost Glide (Air Launched Hypersonic BG weapon), and the Hypersonic Air Breathing Weapon (air launched cruise missile) to begin flight testing in the late 2018 - mid-late 2019 time frame...I would have to go back and check prior year submissions but it does appear that they have moved flight testing up by 6 months to a year.
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                                        • TomcatViP
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                                          JASSM-ER achieves FOC on F-15E Strike Eagle

                                          The USAF’s Seek Eagle Office – which leads the integration of the AGM-158 JASSM and AGM-158B JASSM-ER missiles on the F-15E Strike Eagle – declared FOC for JASSM-ER on the aircraft in the fourth quarter of 2017, although this was only publicly disclosed in early February 2018.
                                          A Lockheed Martin release noted, “With the completion of integration and fielding of JASSM-ER’s Suite 8 Operational Flight Programme [the software programme of an embedded computer system which enables that system to perform its interactive tasks as designed] the F-15E Strike Eagle becomes the first Universal Armament Interface [UAI-compliant platform to field JASSM-ER.”
                                          Source:
                                          IHS Jane's

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