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  • Starsign
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jun 2004
    • 525

    Originally posted by MSphere View Post
    They have only operated six Su-22M-2Ks.. C501 third from left
    What are the differences between Su-20 and Su-22M2? I saw a photo and at least one artwork of the C501 stating that it was a Su-20.

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    • archangelski
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      • Jul 2013
      • 2385

      To make short : Su-20 was the export name of Soviet Su-17M with Lyulka AL-21F engine. Subsequent models of Soviet Su-17, like Su-17M2, M3 and M4 (with associated twin-seat UM) were exported, at the request of customers, with Tumansky R-29B engines, as Su-22M2, M3 and M4 (With K as other distinctions for electronic downgrades).

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      • Gerard
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        • Aug 2009
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        novorussia (new Russia)

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        • archangelski
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          • Jul 2013
          • 2385

          Originally posted by Gerard View Post
          novorussia (new Russia)

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          Hi Gerard,
          unfortunately (for Novorossia AF), it's a PS of a Russian Su-24MR picture, using this reversed one :

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          • Gerard
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            • Aug 2009
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            thanks. I was afraid that it was Ps'ed. To good to be true. Are there any other pics besides the well known Su-25 ?
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            • archangelski
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              • Jul 2013
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              Originally posted by Gerard View Post
              thanks. I was afraid that it was Ps'ed. To good to be true. Are there any other pics besides the well known Su-25 ?
              I remember that they have, at least, recovered a Yak-52 and a L-29 from Luhansk Museum. Do not remember if they have applied roundels. I'll try to see if I find something.

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              • archangelski
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                • Jul 2013
                • 2385

                Originally posted by Gerard View Post
                thanks. I was afraid that it was Ps'ed. To good to be true. Are there any other pics besides the well known Su-25 ?
                Without NR roundels : http://militarizm.livejournal.com/62824.html

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                • MSphere
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                  • Feb 2010
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                  Meanwhile at Donauworth facility - H145 for an unknown military customer

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                  • Freehand
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                    • May 2012
                    • 986

                    Looks like Albanian colors (compare with their Cougars).

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                    • cthornburg
                      Skyvan Capt.
                      • Jan 2000
                      • 697

                      Waco INF

                      From the nationalwacoclub.com which country? or maybe made up for movie?

                      Chris
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                      • p_shadow
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                        • Nov 2004
                        • 101

                        Originally posted by MSphere View Post
                        It's just your tired ol' eyes See the light-colored patch behind the front seat? That is actually the glass window of the rear cockpit canopy (which is closed)
                        Poor me, i have to spend more time looking at "big" air forces, looking at the small ones is taking a toll on my Mk.1s! In the meantime...

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                        • Gerard
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                          Originally posted by archangelski View Post
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                          • MSphere
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                            • Feb 2010
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                            Originally posted by p_shadow View Post
                            Poor me, i have to spend more time looking at "big" air forces, looking at the small ones is taking a toll on my Mk.1s! In the meantime...
                            Fantastic, I have already wondered who will come first with a bunch of Guinean MiGs. Splendid !!!
                            EAF Rafale DM in flight as a teaser

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                            • gkozak
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                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1184

                              So, I have this side-view (see attached) of a purported Bulgarian Fokker D-VII, in standard German lozenge camouflage, but with what are referred to as "entente occupational insignia". The profile says they are red-green-white from the center, actually the colors of Bulgaria. I also read a description stating that the roundels are red-BLUE-white, from the center. This makes more sense if the roundels are indeed "entente occupational insignia". Can anybody provide any clarification on this? Also, I have a photo of a model of a D-VII in Chinese five-sided star insignia; see attached as well. Anybody know if this is genuine, or bogus?
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                              • Freehand
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                                • May 2012
                                • 986

                                I am pretty sure the five-colored star is from the Republic of China air force (1916-1920)

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita..._1916-1920.svg

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                                • gkozak
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Jan 2005
                                  • 1184

                                  Originally posted by Freehand View Post
                                  I am pretty sure the five-colored star is from the Republic of China air force (1916-1920)

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita..._1916-1920.svg
                                  Yes, it is, but I want to know if the Chinese used the D-VII.

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                                  • JohnMacG
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                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 7

                                    Fokker D.VIIs

                                    first, the Bulgarian a/c: Bulgaria asked for an armistice in October 1918, but didn't sign a peace treaty until November 1919 (Treaty of Neuilly). in the meantime the Bulgadian AF continued to fly its' a/c, but with a new roundel. Obviously there are only B&W pics but I've never seen the roundel as being recorded as anything other than red-green-white. (the Bulgarian national colours).
                                    D.VIIs in China; the Manchurian AF received 3 (185hp BMW engined) D.VIIs in 1924 (from Switzerland). I doubt, however, they ever wore the 5-coloured star markings shown, as by that time it seems that the Manchurians were using a 5-ring roundel - from the centre black-white-blue-yellow-red

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                                    • gkozak
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                                      • Jan 2005
                                      • 1184

                                      Originally posted by JohnMacG View Post
                                      first, the Bulgarian a/c: Bulgaria asked for an armistice in October 1918, but didn't sign a peace treaty until November 1919 (Treaty of Neuilly). in the meantime the Bulgadian AF continued to fly its' a/c, but with a new roundel. Obviously there are only B&W pics but I've never seen the roundel as being recorded as anything other than red-green-white. (the Bulgarian national colours).
                                      D.VIIs in China; the Manchurian AF received 3 (185hp BMW engined) D.VIIs in 1924 (from Switzerland). I doubt, however, they ever wore the 5-coloured star markings shown, as by that time it seems that the Manchurians were using a 5-ring roundel - from the centre black-white-blue-yellow-red
                                      And yet one more time, and incredible answer. Thanks profusely, sir!

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                                      • archangelski
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jul 2013
                                        • 2385

                                        Ethiopian SF-260TP :

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                                        • MSphere
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                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 8983

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