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  • archangelski
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    • Jul 2013
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    Kyrgystan Mi-8 :

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    • belgrano1977
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      • Jul 2012
      • 116

      Iraqi Air Force MIG-21F-13 aviation academy
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      • STRATOSAURUS
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        • Apr 2006
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        Originally posted by belgrano1977 View Post
        Iraqi Air Force MIG-21F-13 aviation academy
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        Great find, but chinese made F-7 to me not Mig-21F-13. Note large spin...

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        • qwerty
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          • Aug 2007
          • 168

          Originally posted by STRATOSAURUS View Post
          Great find, but chinese made F-7 to me not Mig-21F-13. Note large spin...
          If it is an F-7 then it's a damn early one because it has no brake chute housing at the base of the tail.

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          • MSphere
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            • Feb 2010
            • 8983

            That is a Soviet-built MiG-21F-13. All Iraqi F-7s had a brake chute housing and a separate windscreen.

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            • STRATOSAURUS
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              • Apr 2006
              • 597

              Originally posted by MSphere View Post
              That is a Soviet-built MiG-21F-13. All Iraqi F-7s had a brake chute housing and a separate windscreen.
              Yure right MSphere and qwerty. Thanks for the correction.

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              • dgimage
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                • Dec 2007
                • 102

                2 more T6C for RNZAF on delivery.
                http://www.airliners.net/photo/New-Z...8f81887ef2ae52
                http://www.airliners.net/photo/New-Z...8f81887ef2ae52

                Note c/n range continuation from the Morrocoan then Mexican ones PM-xx
                Cheers

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                • qwerty
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 168

                  Originally posted by STRATOSAURUS View Post
                  Originally posted by MSphere
                  That is a Soviet-built MiG-21F-13. All Iraqi F-7s had a brake chute housing and a separate windscreen.
                  Yure right MSphere and qwerty. Thanks for the correction.
                  Mind you there were a few F-7s built in China with a cockpit hood and windscreen in a single piece and no brake chute but they were very early examples and production shifted to models with a separate windscreen and a brake chute housing at the base of the tail. A handful of these early machines with Soviet style one piece hoods and no brake chute housing were sold to the Albanian air force.

                  http://www.militaryimages.net/photop...MiG-21F-13.jpg

                  The Iraqis got F-7Bs outfitted as MSphere described with the pitot tube below the nose and outfitted with Chinese made copies of the original Soviet equipment. Later Iraq received the improved F-7Ms with a western made HUDs, western (Marconi) electronics including a radar, pitot tubes on top of the nose and the F-7M was also wired up for both western and eastern bloc missiles.

                  Here are a few Iraqi F-7s. From right to left F-7M, F-7B, F-7M, I always thought the one on the left was a slighly awesome shot.
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                  • MSphere
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 8983

                    First unveiled Super Tucano for USAF LAS programme, the final recipient being Afghan Air Force.
                    Aircraft built by Sierra Nevada Corp.

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                    • Gerard
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3154

                      Y-12 from Guyana and Uganda
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                      • Cherry Ripe
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                        • Jul 2009
                        • 564

                        Originally posted by qwerty View Post
                        Here are a few Iraqi F-7s. From right to left F-7M, F-7B, F-7M, I always thought the one on the left was a slighly awesome shot.
                        Interesting that the CH-53 is carrying the F-7 tail-first. I wonder if that is to prevent the wing generating lift and perhaps bouncing around on the harness?

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                        • archangelski
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                          • Jul 2013
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                          Angolan Zlin 142C :

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                          • qwerty
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                            • Aug 2007
                            • 168

                            Originally posted by Cherry Ripe View Post
                            Interesting that the CH-53 is carrying the F-7 tail-first. I wonder if that is to prevent the wing generating lift and perhaps bouncing around on the harness?
                            Looks like it, although I have seen photos of Mil-6 choppers hauling MiG-21s around during the Vietnam war to keep the Americans confused. Apparently that trick worked out very well. The NVAF used a cradle with an inverted V shaped cable that attached to the belly of the chopper at a single point so the MiG would habe spun around in transit from the caves they were stored in to the air strips. Here's another shot of that F-7M. Also a slightly awesome shot. Somebody on the transport crew had an eye for image composition:
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                            • Freehand
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                              • May 2012
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                              Why is the helicopter carrying that aircraft? For what purpose could U.S. forces want with such a dilapidated aircraft? Why waste the gas in the chopper?

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                              • qwerty
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                                • Aug 2007
                                • 168

                                Originally posted by Freehand View Post
                                Why is the helicopter carrying that aircraft? For what purpose could U.S. forces want with such a dilapidated aircraft? Why waste the gas in the chopper?
                                It's been a long time since I collected that photo but IIRC they wanted it for a museum.

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                                • gkozak
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                                  • Jan 2005
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                                  Originally posted by qwerty View Post
                                  It's been a long time since I collected that photo but IIRC they wanted it for a museum.

                                  I heard that they wanted to drop it from max altitude to see how far it would penetrate into the sand.

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                                  • Gerard
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                                    • Aug 2009
                                    • 3154

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                                    Algeria Yak-130
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                                    • Cherry Ripe
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                                      • Jul 2009
                                      • 564

                                      Rather an oldie but thought it might be of interest. Brief cine footage of a Nigerian MiG-17 in action over Biafra in 1968

                                      http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist...8011/?s=biafra

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                                      • Gerard
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                                        • Aug 2009
                                        • 3154

                                        Indonesia. Pictures taken last week during the Parachute WC
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                                        • STRATOSAURUS
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                                          • Apr 2006
                                          • 597

                                          Some cuban interesting shots... The Flogger.... wooow....
                                          http://www.cubadefensa.cu/?q=node/2807

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