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  • Gerard
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    • Aug 2009
    • 3154

    To stay in Iran let us view the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution (better known as the Iranian Revelutionary Guard)
    IRGCAF = Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Air Force
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    "roundel"

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    An-74 - Bell 214 - Shaled 278
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    Su-25UBK - Y-12 II - Mi-17
    Last edited by Gerard; 5th February 2014, 10:33.
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    • archangelski
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Jul 2013
      • 2384

      Old Zaire Air Force :

      DHC-5D :


      MB-326KZ :


      SA-330 :

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      • archangelski
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jul 2013
        • 2384

        Old Lebanese Air Force SM.79-III :

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        • KERVYN
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • May 2007
          • 803

          with thanks for the Lebanese "connection" ;
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ID:	3651675 & these interesting pages in ;http://www.lebaneseairforce.info/history6.htm

          see also ;http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...r-Force-photos

          and ;http://www.lebarmy.gov.lb/en/album/?...3#.UvUfzfCYZD8

          friendly, Etienne
          Last edited by KERVYN; 7th February 2014, 18:03.

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          • KERVYN
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 803

            your question, Archangelski, in post # 750 (p 25) of this thread ;

            about this unknown cross ;
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            MAYBE.... this is (the beginning of ) the solution ;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu...undel_1938.svg

            friendly, Etienne

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            • Gerard
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2009
              • 3154

              Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
              about this unknown cross ;
              ......................................[ATTACH=CONFIG]225264[/ATTACH]

              MAYBE.... this is (the beginning of ) the solution ;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu...undel_1938.svg

              friendly, Etienne
              Sorry Etienne. I dont think so

              The stupid thing is I found a website with the same picture. Can not be opened.
              https://www.google.nl/search?tbs=sbi...p%20afbeelding
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              • gkozak
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2005
                • 1183

                Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
                about this unknown cross ;
                ......................................[ATTACH=CONFIG]225264[/ATTACH]

                MAYBE.... this is (the beginning of ) the solution ;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu...undel_1938.svg

                friendly, Etienne
                It's Georgian. I am having trouble attaching images, but when I get it resolved I will attach one of the Georgian flag. It has four smaller crosses of the same type as is on the L-39.

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                • Gerard
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3154

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                  Originally posted by gkozak View Post
                  It's Georgian. I am having trouble attaching images, but when I get it resolved I will attach one of the Georgian flag. It has four smaller crosses of the same type as is on the L-39.
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                  • KERVYN
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • May 2007
                    • 803

                    the 'mysterious' cross....

                    well seen your comments, Gerard & Greg, thanks...

                    a 'similar ' one to the Georgian ?.........mmh !!......

                    but... on the official site of the Georgian Army, I see only their 'classic' star ;
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                    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.........................................http://army.ge/?p=948

                    What do YOU think, Archangelski ??

                    friendly yours,

                    Etienne

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                    • gkozak
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 1183

                      Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
                      well seen your comments, Gerard & Greg, thanks...

                      a 'similar ' one to the Georgian ?.........mmh !!......

                      but... on the official site of the Georgian Army, I see only their 'classic' star ;
                      .................................................. .........................................[ATTACH=CONFIG]225276[/ATTACH]

                      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.........................................http://army.ge/?p=948

                      What do YOU think, Archangelski ??

                      friendly yours,

                      Etienne
                      There are many variations to national markings on aircraft. For instance, I have a picture of an Armenian Su-25 with their coat-of-arms on the tail, superimposed on their air force roundel. I also have a picture of an Abkhazian L-39 with their national emblem on the tail, not their roundel. Will post when I can.

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                      • KERVYN
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • May 2007
                        • 803

                        the mysterious cross /continued...

                        I've just found this 'KP-archive' ; see post # 741 & 742 in :http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...read-12/page25

                        what about your digging, Greg ???

                        friendly, Etienne

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                        • belgrano1977
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                          • Jul 2012
                          • 116

                          What is the model Su-20K, Su-20M? I think that this is the first photo of the su-20M (22M2)with a pylon under the nose.
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                          • archangelski
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 2384

                            Originally posted by belgrano1977 View Post
                            What is the model Su-20K, Su-20M? I think that this is the first photo of the su-20M (22M2)with a pylon under the nose.
                            It's Su-22M2K (factory designation S-32M2K and Fitter F for NATO) with some "improved" avionics and systems comparing to earlier versions (FON-1400 Laser rangefinder in the nose, ASP-17 and PBK-3-17s aiming avionics, RSBN-6S short-range navigation and instrument landing system, ...) and the undernose pod is for a DISS-7 Doppler radar (black pannel) and, on some airframes, RWR.
                            Last edited by archangelski; 9th February 2014, 09:29.

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                            • KERVYN
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • May 2007
                              • 803

                              Hello J.V., see post # 949 ;
                              ..............................
                              What do YOU think, Archangelski ??
                              friendly, Etienne

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                              • archangelski
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 2384

                                Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
                                well seen your comments, Gerard & Greg, thanks...

                                a 'similar ' one to the Georgian ?.........mmh !!......

                                but... on the official site of the Georgian Army, I see only their 'classic' star ;
                                .................................................. .........................................[ATTACH=CONFIG]225276[/ATTACH]

                                >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.........................................http://army.ge/?p=948

                                What do YOU think, Archangelski ??

                                friendly yours,

                                Etienne
                                Hello Etienne,
                                Unfortunately I still do not have a solution for this aircraft. Maybe effectively some kind of pre-test of a "modified" Georgian roundel made during a refurbishment in Ukraine (as this particular roundel that we have seen earlier on a Mozambique MiG-21 in Romania). The result is a paintjob closer to a Malta Cross than a Georgian one.

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                                • KERVYN
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • May 2007
                                  • 803

                                  thanks for your POV, J.V.... the mystery remains thus ... !!!

                                  still hoping for Greg's reply. (post # 951)

                                  friendly, Etienne

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                                  • gkozak
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Jan 2005
                                    • 1183

                                    Originally posted by archangelski View Post
                                    Hello Etienne,
                                    Unfortunately I still do not have a solution for this aircraft. Maybe effectively some kind of pre-test of a "modified" Georgian roundel made during a refurbishment in Ukraine (as this particular roundel that we have seen earlier on a Mozambique MiG-21 in Romania). The result is a paintjob closer to a Malta Cross than a Georgian one.
                                    I looked at the cross again, and you're right. It is a Maltese cross, not a Georgian one. Well, looks like this one is still a mystery.

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                                    • Tango III
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Sep 2006
                                      • 25365

                                      Old Iraqi AF. stuff!

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                                      • archangelski
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jul 2013
                                        • 2384

                                        Ghana AF :
                                        Skyvan :


                                        F.27M in two different paints :


                                        Mi-17TV-5 :

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                                        • KERVYN
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • May 2007
                                          • 803

                                          About unusual markings ....!

                                          an Armenian Su-25 with their coat-of-arms on the tail, superimposed on their air force roundel
                                          Hello, Greg,

                                          I've found again your old post ( Sm A/F thread # 12 p14 post 413 ) about the special tail of that ARMENIAN Su-25 ;

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                                          (was this one the 'lost' image in your post ?)

                                          friendly yours,

                                          Etienne
                                          Last edited by KERVYN; 9th February 2014, 17:59.

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