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  • archangelski
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    • Jul 2013
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    Sri Lanka again :

    AB.412 :

    Pucara :
    Last edited by archangelski; 18th December 2013, 09:54.

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    • BME330
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      • Jan 2000
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      Originally posted by archangelski View Post
      Sri Lanka again :

      AB.412 :
      Two blades, is a 212

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      • archangelski
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        • Jul 2013
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        Originally posted by BME330 View Post
        Two blades, is a 212
        OK, corrected.

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        • archangelski
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          • Jul 2013
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          Ivory Coast :

          Bonanza :


          Gulfstream III :

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          • KERVYN
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            • May 2007
            • 803

            Mozambique ?

            found this view in Forcesdz.com (*) where it is presented as being of the Mozambican Air Force !!


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            >>>>>>>>>>>>>.................................................. .............................................. BUT ... I don't believe it ...!. it's surely a PS'roundel !!

            (*) I don't want to enter/connect in that site )


            I'd like to know ....


            friendly, Etienne
            Last edited by KERVYN; 19th December 2013, 13:29.

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            • archangelski
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              Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
              [ATTACH=CONFIG]223812[/ATTACH]
              Neither the roundel nor the background seem to have something to do with Mozambique. More an European country for me and roundel seems to look more like a Romanian one than anything else.
              Maybe those two Albatrosses used by Mozambican pilots in Romania (Air International of december).
              Last edited by archangelski; 19th December 2013, 14:58.

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              • gkozak
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                • Jan 2005
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                Originally posted by archangelski View Post
                Neither the roundel nor the background seem to have something to do with Mozambique. More an European country for me and roundel seems to look more like a Romanian one than anything else.
                Maybe those two Albatrosses used by Mozambican pilots in Romania (Air International of december).
                Yeah, it's almost certainly Romanian. Could be Chad, but first, this doesn't make much sense, and two, Chad has a new insignia very similar to the Czech roundel, except in Chadian colors.

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                • archangelski
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                  • Jul 2013
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                  Originally posted by gkozak View Post
                  Yeah, it's almost certainly Romanian. Could be Chad, but first, this doesn't make much sense, and two, Chad has a new insignia very similar to the Czech roundel, except in Chadian colors.
                  I don't think that Chadian L-39 are in airworthy conditions. Could be wrong.

                  PS : Do you have a picture of an aircraft with that new Chadian roundel (Czech-like) ?

                  Thanks.
                  Last edited by archangelski; 19th December 2013, 16:15.

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                  • KERVYN
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                    • May 2007
                    • 803

                    the "mysterious" L-39 ;

                    thanks, Archangelski & Greg, for your replies ...

                    &... looking also forward for that new Chadian roundel !!!

                    friendly, Etienne

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                    • gkozak
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                      Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
                      the "mysterious" L-39 ;

                      thanks, Archangelski & Greg, for your replies ...

                      &... looking also forward for that new Chadian roundel !!!

                      friendly, Etienne
                      Here it is. Also, some interesting images from Georgia- an An-2 with the Georgian flag and coat-of-arms (also attached), an L-39 with an unusual variant of their roundel, and what appears to be a Georgian L-39 with the Georgian Cross as an insignia.
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                      • archangelski
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                        Originally posted by gkozak View Post
                        Here it is. Also, some interesting images from Georgia- an An-2 with the Georgian flag and coat-of-arms (also attached), an L-39 with an unusual variant of their roundel, and what appears to be a Georgian L-39 with the Georgian Cross as an insignia.
                        I had completely forgotten this picture of a Chadian Su-25 found on a Russian forum 4 or 5 years ago. It had intrigued me at the time and it doesn't changed.
                        The L-39 with a "Malta cross" had the same effect on me.
                        Last edited by archangelski; 19th December 2013, 19:20.

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                        • mack8
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                          Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
                          found this view in Forcesdz.com (*) where it is presented as being of the Mozambican Air Force !!


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                          >>>>>>>>>>>>>.................................................. .............................................. BUT ... I don't believe it ...!. it's surely a PS'roundel !!

                          (*) I don't want to enter/connect in that site )


                          I'd like to know ....


                          friendly, Etienne
                          Well, yes it's mozambican, it was overhauled at Aerostar together with some MiG-21s, in that picture the L-39 has a provisional romanian roundel. RoAF has looong stopped operating the L-39. Pictures (of this L-39 and MiG-21bis/UM) were taken at Aerostar btw.
                          Last edited by mack8; 19th December 2013, 21:15.
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                          • KERVYN
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                            • May 2007
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                            Well, yes it's mozambican, it was overhauled at Aerostar , in that picture the L-39 has a provisional romanian roundel.]
                            many thanks, Mack8 !!

                            friendly, Etienne

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                            • KERVYN
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                              • May 2007
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                              New Chadian roundel ?

                              many thanks, Greg ;
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                              no problem for the tail, of course

                              BUT for 'the' roundel on the wing.... I'm really intrigued !! .... it looks like a Czech one... & maybe IT IS a Czech one !!!!

                              friendly, Etienne

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                              • KERVYN
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                                • May 2007
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                                I agree with you, Archangelski ;
                                The L-39 with a "Malta cross" had the same effect on me.
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                                friendly, Etienne
                                Last edited by KERVYN; 19th December 2013, 21:35.

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                                • gkozak
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                                  Originally posted by KERVYN View Post
                                  many thanks, Greg ;
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                                  no problem for the tail, of course

                                  BUT for 'the' roundel on the wing.... I'm really intrigued !! .... it looks like a Czech one... & maybe IT IS a Czech one !!!!

                                  friendly, Etienne
                                  It's the new Chadian roundel! I've confirmed it with John Cochrane, the author of the book Military Aircraft Insignia of the World. By the way his two-volume second edition will be published this coming spring. It will be greatly expanded from the first edition, and should be really fantastic! I believe you can pre-order it now on amazon.com.

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                                  • archangelski
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                                    • Jul 2013
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                                    Originally posted by mack8 View Post
                                    Well, yes it's mozambican, it was overhauled at Aerostar together with some MiG-21s, in that picture the L-39 has a provisional romanian roundel. RoAF has looong stopped operating the L-39. Pictures (of this L-39 and MiG-21bis/UM) were taken at Aerostar btw.
                                    Originally posted by gkozak View Post
                                    It's the new Chadian roundel! I've confirmed it with John Cochrane, the author of the book Military Aircraft Insignia of the World. By the way his two-volume second edition will be published this coming spring. It will be greatly expanded from the first edition, and should be really fantastic! I believe you can pre-order it now on amazon.com.
                                    Thanks.

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                                    • archangelski
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                                      • Jul 2013
                                      • 2384

                                      As we are with Chadian AF :

                                      SA330 :


                                      C-130 :


                                      PC-9 :

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                                      • archangelski
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jul 2013
                                        • 2384

                                        Chadian AF : more :

                                        Gazelle :


                                        Mi-35V :


                                        Mi-17 :

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                                        • KERVYN
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • May 2007
                                          • 803

                                          New (?) Chadian roundel ??

                                          are you sure, Greg ?

                                          compare with J.V.'s version ;
                                          I had completely forgotten this picture of a Chadian Su-25 found on a Russian forum 4 or 5 years ago. It had intrigued me at the time and it doesn't changed.
                                          I remain really intrigued !!!

                                          Ask the question to GERARD ...

                                          Don't be angry, but the more I look to that roundel on the wing, the more I 'see' a Czech one... (even the colors of ...!) ;............; ..Click image for larger version

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                                          friendly, Etienne
                                          Last edited by KERVYN; 20th December 2013, 18:04.

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