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  • Mpacha
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    20 pages exceeded, please start another thread if you wish to continue this discusion.
    Mpacha

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  • JSTCVW09CD
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    http://www.armstrade.org/includes/pe...6/detail.shtml


    Besides 31 Mi-17s bought in the past 2 years, the Pentagon plans to buy another 30 Mi-17s for Afgan........

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  • Berkut
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    Originally posted by Austin View Post
    Jo , what does Pogosyn say at the end of the video interview on Mig-29K and Mig-35

    http://www.rg.ru/2013/04/05/pogosyan.html
    I am no Jo, but what he says is that MiG-29K (First one will be KUB, actually) will start deliveries this year. He expects contract for MiG-35's to be signed soon. However, the most interesting part is that he said more deliveries of SMT's are also planned. There has been some "whispers in the hall" about this, but first time "official".

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  • Austin
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    Jo , what does Pogosyn say at the end of the video interview on Mig-29K and Mig-35

    http://www.rg.ru/2013/04/05/pogosyan.html

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  • martinez
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    I agree, doesnt look like it is from a rocket plume, surface around would have been seriously burned,dark, is it? thanks for that additional pic anyway.

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  • Berkut
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    Originally posted by haavarla View Post
    Ah, so its impossible for the Su-34 to launch any missile from those Airduct pylons? Missiles like Kh-31P?

    Nice try though
    Have you ever seen Kh-31 launch? Can i suggest that you do?

    It falls for a while before it actually fires, at that point the plume is nowhere near the plane.

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  • haavarla
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    Ah, so its impossible for the Su-34 to launch any missile from those Airduct pylons? Missiles like Kh-31P?

    Nice try though

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  • Berkut
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    Originally posted by haavarla View Post
    Looking more closely, it looks like the paint has peeled off due the the rocket jet plume upon launching.

    See behind the airduct pylon..
    Indeed, because it is well known fact free fall bombs have jet plumes.



    Bonus picture.
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  • haavarla
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    Looking more closely, it looks like the paint has peeled off due the the rocket jet plume upon launching.

    See behind the airduct pylon..

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  • martinez
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    Originally posted by TR1 View Post

    http://russianplanes.net/images/to104000/103314.jpg

    Crappy paint on Su-34 peeling off. Heat from engines?
    seems to be related to that carc resistant paint on engine fairings only, heat could be a catalyst, but I think it is rather obvious, fckd-up overpainting proccess, no adhesion, incompatibility between two paint layers, or solvent being used in the new paint, .....funny, NAPO will cut monthly salaries of the paintshop workers again....

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  • TR1
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    Well apparently Russia is buying/bought all rights to An-140T from Ukraine, so we will see.

    http://russianplanes.net/images/to104000/103314.jpg

    Crappy paint on Su-34 peeling off. Heat from engines?

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  • Austin
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    More likely RuAF would stick with An-140 project and build it as their light transport aircraft , its far less risky , its available , more or less similar to IL-112

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  • JangBoGo
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    ^^^ A-50U looks very nice!


    Some IL-112 pictures. I hope it is not too big and within forum rules.




    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-712.html
    There was an earlier report about Il-112 being offered to IAF requirement of light/medium transport aircraft.

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  • KRATOS1133
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    A-50U
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    Last edited by KRATOS1133; 4th April 2013, 12:37.

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  • TR1
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    Apparently Mi-28N costs barely less.

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  • mack8
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    How much would it be for a Mi-28N ?

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  • J-31 Burrito
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    Originally posted by TR1 View Post
    Apache numbers are a lot higher (I have seen anywhere from 32 to 52 million per bird).

    Considering the equipment on Ka-52s being delivered today, 26 million is a solid deal.
    Australian Tigres are 31 million, so hokums are pretty nice deal. don't know about operating costs.

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  • TR1
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    Originally posted by Berkut View Post
    Any good price numbers for most recent AH-64's? For instance those that are built/assembled in Korea?

    26 mil is a lot...
    Apache numbers are a lot higher (I have seen anywhere from 32 to 52 million per bird).

    Considering the equipment on Ka-52s being delivered today, 26 million is a solid deal.

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  • TR1
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    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/491764.html

    Correction- 21 Ka-52s were made in 2012. 9 were made in 2011.

    18 Mi-28N were also built, along with 29 Mi-35s ( 18 export + 11 domestic).

    Pretty excellent numbers all in all, 50 new attack helos for the RuAF in 2012 alone. Confirms what we already knew, the attack helo force's future is clear and safe. At this pace the whole fleet can be renewed within several years.

    6 Ansat-U and 11 Ka-226 were also built in 2012.

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  • haavarla
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    Originally posted by totoro View Post
    I know we talked about it but i hoped scramble would shed a bit more light onto it.
    I do hope avgr will get more standardized as time goes on, so we don't have to guess whether one avgr has just one squadron and another one four of them.

    There are 4 avg with mig31 in that list. So, on average, 3 squadrons per avg, making up some 12 squadrons for a total of 144 planes. In reality probably a squadron less, perhaps some of those combined avg with both mig31 and su27 mean there is just 1 or 2 mig31 squadrons in them.

    Of course, if squadrons themselves arent standardized either and range from under 12 to 16 or even more planes - then to hell with any sort of list. That'd make the whole thing an enigma impossible to dechiper.
    Yeah i know. Its very hard to figure out exactly how many units in each AvGr.
    Some up to Sq size, but several under Sq size.. like those Mig-25, its only a few units.. if they are operational at all..

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