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  • Freehand
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    • May 2012
    • 986

    #61
    Is it true the back-seater is the aircraft commander?

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    • TR1
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      • Oct 2010
      • 9819

      #62
      Originally posted by edi_right_round View Post
      Griffon he's got flight controls,stick,gas and pedals.Berkut posted a vid where u could see that.Seems around 2008 they were given priority and ranks were filled with young pilots,straight from L-39 and flying quite some hours.Russian guys here say fighters fly smhow 80-100 hours a year depending on type i recall reading
      More now- pilots @ Kursk (MiG-29SMT) recorded 150 hours through November 2012 - and numbers keep steadily creeping up.
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      • TR1
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        • Oct 2010
        • 9819

        #63
        http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27200/

        Izvestia caught making **** up, yet again
        Recently they had an article that made its rounds in Russian media, that NAPO's work on Su-34s left a lot to be desired, and the plane had many deficiencies. They quoted a member of a MOD commission investigating the issue.

        The MOD was contacted, and they made an official response - by a NAMED, existing polkovnik, Vladimir Drik: " Such a commission is made up, as are the "findings" ". He also stated that much of the facts presented in the Izvestia article were false.

        Take Izvestia articles with an An-124 load of salt from now on. I suspect they will be @ an-225 levels soon though.
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        • mack8
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          • Nov 2009
          • 2114

          #64
          Why the heck do they do that ?
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          NO to NATO
          NO to WAR!

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          • blackwood
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            • Dec 2011
            • 314

            #65
            HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL, lots of great news to come. Growing pains are always going to happen with any plane put into production. Be those pains exaggerated or not, somewhere in the middle is the truth. Lets hope Su-35, Su-34, PAK-FA and others continue to strengthen in numbers and quality.

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            • blackwood
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Dec 2011
              • 314

              #66
              Moscow - The Novosibirsk aircraft plant of the Sukhoi Holding (NAPO) will increase the output of Sukhoi Su-34 multirole bombers in 2013, a source in the defense sector told Interfax-AVN on Saturday.

              "In 2013 the Su-34 production at NAPO will be larger than in 2012," the source said.

              "While setting off batch production of Su-34, NAPO is constantly enlarging their output," he said.

              NAPO made two Su-34 aircraft in 2009, four in 2010, six in 2011 and ten in 2012, the source said.

              NATO is executing two state contracts: one to make 32 aircraft before 2013 and the other to make 92 aircraft before 2020. "The total order is 124 aircraft," the source said.

              "The introduction of new cost saving technologies and equipment, the so-called smart manufacturing, is a token of a larger output of Su-34," he noted.


              Article on Su-34, sorry if already posted

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              • swerve
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                • Jun 2005
                • 13610

                #67
                Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27200/

                Izvestia caught making **** up, yet again
                Recently they had an article that made its rounds in Russian media, that NAPO's work on Su-34s left a lot to be desired, and the plane had many deficiencies. They quoted a member of a MOD commission investigating the issue.

                The MOD was contacted, and they made an official response - by a NAMED, existing polkovnik, Vladimir Drik: " Such a commission is made up, as are the "findings" ". He also stated that much of the facts presented in the Izvestia article were false.

                Take Izvestia articles with an An-124 load of salt from now on. I suspect they will be @ an-225 levels soon though.
                Ah, just like Soviet days, when they used to say "There's no pravda in Izvestia, & no izvestia in Pravda". :diablo:
                Juris praecepta sunt haec: honeste vivere, alterum non laedere, suum cuique tribuere.
                Justinian

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                • haavarla
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6696

                  #68
                  Ok, some news thats very real.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=BjLpTYOHxlU

                  Kaan AB(Far East) has fully replentish its rank with upgraded Mig-31BM.


                  And Happy new year all
                  Thanks

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                  • Deino
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                    • Jan 2000
                    • 4226

                    #69


                    https://russiandefpolicy.wordpress.c...growing-pains/

                    Early this month, Izvestiyas Aleksey Mikhaylov and Dmitriy Balburov published on growing pains in Russias procurement of the Su-34 strike fighter. The aircraft is not combat capable according to them.

                    A few English-language sites mentioned their story, but didnt render it completely or accurately.

                    According Izvestiya, the Defense Minister may soon sign out a report on defects in the Su-34 that interfere with its full combat employment. Each of the 16 Su-34s received over six years reportedly has its own individual problems.

                    The authors say the Defense Ministry already won an 80-million-ruble suit against the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named for Chkalov over undelivered aircraft. They insinuate this Defense Ministry report could be the basis for more litigation against the airplanes manufacturer.

                    A Su-34 pilot told Izvestiya radar and targeting-navigation system problems interfere with flight training in the aircraft. Malfunctions, he says, are the result of both programming problems and technical flaws. A maintenance officer said each aircraft has its own characteristics, for example, an auxiliary motor located in different places on different borts.

                    Two Su-34s delivered to Lipetsk in 2006 are allegedly non-operational, and sit at the airfield for show. However, the best airframes are the last three borts sent to Baltimor / Voronezh last summer, a VVS Glavkomat officer told the authors.

                    OPK representatives expressed surprise at the militarys complaints, noting that the early production run of any aircraft entails problems. Some blamed a low level of training among VVS pilots and technicians for difficulties with the Su-34.

                    The Izvestiya report seems at odds with the recent announcement that delivery of a second Su-34 squadron is beginning. In fact, the media reports five more aircraft arrived at Voronezh from Novosibirsk just days ago. Practically the same day, Defense Minister Shoygu visited the city, airfield, and other VVS institutions. It may be that his predecessor Serdyukov was inclined to criticize the OPK and the Su-34′s quality. So maybe Shoygu wont approve the Su-34 report. But that doesnt necessarily mean there arent real problems with the aircraft.
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                    He was my North, my South, my East and West,
                    My working week and my Sunday rest,
                    My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
                    I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong.

                    The stars are not wanted now; put out every one:
                    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
                    Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods:
                    For nothing now can ever come to any good.
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                    • TR1
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 9819

                      #70
                      See above regarding Izvestya Deino.

                      http://russianplanes.net/images/to95000/094228.jpg

                      MiG-31 HUD
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                      • Deino
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                        • Jan 2000
                        • 4226

                        #71
                        o.k ... THANKs !
                        ...

                        He was my North, my South, my East and West,
                        My working week and my Sunday rest,
                        My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
                        I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong.

                        The stars are not wanted now; put out every one:
                        Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
                        Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods:
                        For nothing now can ever come to any good.
                        -------------------------------------------------
                        W.H.Auden (1945)

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                        • TR1
                          TR1
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                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9819

                          #72
                          Originally posted by mack8 View Post
                          Why the heck do they do that ?
                          I think they got new ownership a while ago, and decided sensational yellow press would be a good way to get viewership up.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=I3pF376-3Zs#!

                          Great 1080p footage of Long Range Aviation.
                          Last edited by TR1; 1st January 2013, 11:21.
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                          • wilhelm
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                            • Dec 2004
                            • 1658

                            #73
                            The Blackjack is certainly an impressive aircraft.

                            What is the stautus of the Blackjack?

                            I recall there was an announcement that some more Blackjacks were being procured.

                            Is this the case?
                            If so, was it ever discovered if these were new builds, or previous incomplete examples that were to be finished?

                            Wiki says that a new build Tu-160 was delivered in 2008, and that a new Blackjack is to be built every 1 or 2 years until the fleet reaches about 30 or more aircraft in the 2025-2030 timeframe.

                            I know wiki is not the best source, but is this happening? it seems this was based on a 2008 report, so has anything along these lines transpired in the last 5 years?
                            Last edited by wilhelm; 1st January 2013, 13:29.

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                            • Berkut
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 2216

                              #74
                              Originally posted by haavarla View Post
                              Ok, some news thats very real.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=BjLpTYOHxlU

                              Kaan AB(Far East) has fully replentish its rank with upgraded Mig-31BM.


                              And Happy new year all
                              Only shame that those news are not real.

                              No, more Blackjacks won't be bought. Atleast 10 of them will undergo modernization where they will get Irbis radar and other stuff.

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                              • wilhelm
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                                • Dec 2004
                                • 1658

                                #75
                                Okay.

                                I've had a look and apparently the NK engines for the Tu-160 are to go back into production, in upgraded form.

                                There are apparently incomplete airframes from when Yeltsin stopped production, that could concievably be completed.

                                So definitely no further Tu-160's?

                                Will the upgraded new production engines be for the new bomber being developed?

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                                • TR1
                                  TR1
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                                  • Oct 2010
                                  • 9819

                                  #76
                                  I think the first priority is to ensure the Tu-160s (which have a potential to serve many years) do not find themselves grounded when the current engines inevitably reach an end to their service lives.
                                  KAPO is gone as an aircraft manufacturer within a short time (after they finish last several Il-114s) so thats not happening.
                                  Last edited by TR1; 1st January 2013, 16:23.
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                                  • Tigershark
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 285

                                    #77
                                    thank you for the link friend. it confirm my suspicions.

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                                    • Trident
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                                      • May 2004
                                      • 3965

                                      #78
                                      Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                                      KAPO is gone as an aircraft manufacturer within a short time (after they finish last several Il-114s) so thats not happening.
                                      What's the Il-114 (*T*APO) got to do with KAPO and the Tu-160? KAPO will be around for a long time, what with Tu-22M/Tu-160 upgrades, military Tu-214 derivatives and SSJ components - IIRC they are also tentatively planned to build the PAK-DA, when and if it happens.
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                                      • TR1
                                        TR1
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                                        • Oct 2010
                                        • 9819

                                        #79
                                        Been drinking ok, mixed up the names .
                                        Thought something sounded off...
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                                        • Sheogorath
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                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 177

                                          #80
                                          I'm not sure if this question has been asked before, but was there any particular reason for not keeping the single piece windscreen seen in a MiG-31M for the MiG-31BM program?.

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