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  • ink
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    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jan 2000
    • 3575

    The Ka-52K has been nicknamed - "Katran".
    Катран means "tar" in Serbian
    Regards, Ivan

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    • TR1
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      • Oct 2010
      • 9819

      Well luckily the Ka-52K is not Serbian.
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      • Dr.Snufflebug
        Boggleboople snufflebug
        • Aug 2012
        • 527

        Originally posted by TR1 View Post
        Well luckily the Ka-52K is not Serbian.
        It's just two different routes really. From what I gather katran is some kind of proto-Slavic for something (like soil) seeping with a thick dark fluid, tar-like, wet coal, like bitumen or what have you. For reference:
        http://www.slovopedia.com/22/202/1634761.html

        I don't know of any contemporary Russian word that directly traces back to that particular piece of etymology but it seems to be incredibly old and well established in certain Slavic contexts.

        As far as the Ka-52K is concerned the name is obviously taken from an order of sharks (Squaliformes) that are called katran in both Russian and Ukrainian (a word that is probably derived from the Greek word for the same shark, κεντρόνι/kentroni, which I would guess, I'm not entirely sure, itself derives from the term stinging/to sting - κεντύ, as the sharks in question tend to possess stinger-like venomous spines).

        But venomous spines aside, these sharks are tiny and not very intimidating. The venom in question is mild as well, bee sting-like tops. Then again a certain amount of modesty is always good, quite unlike the mighty dragons and blades of thunderous glory that we keep hearing about. Is it just me or does that kind of have an effect opposite to what is (presumably) intended?
        Last edited by Dr.Snufflebug; 26th February 2013, 02:40.
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        • niksi
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Apr 2007
          • 406

          Originally posted by Dr.Snufflebug View Post
          It's just two different routes really. From what I gather katran is some kind of proto-Slavic for something (like soil) seeping with a thick dark fluid, tar-like, wet coal, like bitumen or what have you. For reference:
          http://www.slovopedia.com/22/202/1634761.html

          I don't know of any contemporary Russian word that directly traces back to that particular piece of etymology but it seems to be incredibly old and well established in certain Slavic contexts.

          As far as the Ka-52K is concerned the name is obviously taken from an order of sharks (Squaliformes) that are called katran in both Russian and Ukrainian (a word that is probably derived from the Greek word for the same shark, κεντρόνι/kentroni, which I would guess, I'm not entirely sure, itself derives from the term stinging/to sting - κεντύ, as the sharks in question tend to possess stinger-like venomous spines).

          But venomous spines aside, these sharks are tiny and not very intimidating. The venom in question is mild as well, bee sting-like tops. Then again a certain amount of modesty is always good, quite unlike the mighty dragons and blades of thunderous glory that we keep hearing about. Is it just me or does that kind of have an effect opposite to what is (presumably) intended?
          My Goodness Doctor, I enjoyed reading this

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          • MadRat
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Aug 2006
            • 5033

            Seems silly that the name was used for one of their classes of boats, too.
            Go Huskers!

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            • CoffeeBean
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Jun 2011
              • 404

              c/o Pyogi



              More pics here - http://www.photoyogi.com/Airplanes/aeroindia2013

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              • ink
                ink
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2000
                • 3575

                It's just two different routes really...
                Thanks Doc, great post!
                Regards, Ivan

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                • paralay
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1411

                  Originally posted by Dr.Snufflebug View Post
                  It's just two different routes really. From what I gather katran is some kind of proto-Slavic for something (like soil) seeping with a thick dark fluid, tar-like, wet coal, like bitumen or what have you...
                  Correctly. "Tar spin" - "Спина как смола" (RUS)
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                  • Dr.Snufflebug
                    Boggleboople snufflebug
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 527

                    Originally posted by paralay View Post
                    Correctly. "Tar spin"
                    So there you go, perhaps the Greek connection is wrong (despite how fitting it sounds) and it was tar all along?
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                    • TR1
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 9819



                      Looks like the new shelters are spreading.
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                      • Austin
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 6477

                        Whats good about this new shelters ?
                        "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                        • TR1
                          TR1
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                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9819

                          It exists.
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                          • TR1
                            TR1
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                            • Oct 2010
                            • 9819

                            http://russianplanes.net/images/to100000/099325.jpg

                            These Su-35 pics keep on commin...
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                            • QuantumFX
                              What?
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1832

                              Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                              http://russianplanes.net/images/to100000/099325.jpg

                              These Su-35 pics keep on commin...
                              Holy

                              talk about air-superiority

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                              • MSphere
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 8983

                                Ain't that a PS job? While the tips of the white R-77s on the port wing are nicely in-line with the leading edge, the red R-77 with tan-colored radome on the starboard wing seems to be completely off.

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                                • haavarla
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 6696

                                  Looks real enough for me..
                                  Whats the story with the differend color on those missiles?
                                  Thanks

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                                  • Wanderlei
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 486

                                    Originally posted by MSphere View Post
                                    Ain't that a PS job? While the tips of the white R-77s on the port wing are nicely in-line with the leading edge, the red R-77 with tan-colored radome on the starboard wing seems to be completely off.
                                    look very real even when zoomed in (a lot). Also, all the missiles have different crappy paint, and are at slightly different angle in relation to camera. I'm no expert though.

                                    can anyone comment on versions and range of these R-77s? There is definitely at least two versions distinguishable.

                                    thanks in advance.

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                                    • thobbes
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Sep 2010
                                      • 2116

                                      Originally posted by haavarla View Post
                                      Looks real enough for me..
                                      Whats the story with the differend color on those missiles?

                                      Training weapons?
                                      "It will be so loud that if we move in next door to you, your lawn will die".
                                      Lemmy on Motorhead

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                                      • Flanker_man
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jan 2000
                                        • 3679

                                        Originally posted by MSphere View Post
                                        Ain't that a PS job? While the tips of the white R-77s on the port wing are nicely in-line with the leading edge, the red R-77 with tan-colored radome on the starboard wing seems to be completely off.
                                        The two outer white missiles on the port side are in line - the inner one is further back - the inner (of the 3) wing pylon is set further back - so the missile is further back - and not in line with the other two.

                                        The same applies to the starboard wing - the red-with-tan-radome missile on the inner of the 3 wing pylons is further back - and not in line with the other two wing missiles.

                                        Ken
                                        Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast.
                                        Flankers (& others) website at :-
                                        http://flankers.co.uk/

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                                        • TR1
                                          TR1
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                                          • Oct 2010
                                          • 9819

                                          http://bmpd.livejournal.com/471136.html

                                          Somewhat of a first- HAL got a contract from Irkut for RC1 and RC2 processors for the Bard radar- for RuAF Su-30SMs by the look of it.
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