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    Isn't it just natural that local manufacturing industry may have higher price, considering it also have R&D attached. Can't really compare it with Su-30MKI's or foreign analogs. Closest example would be the Japanese F-2's.

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      Has HAL paid for Tejas R&D? I thought it had been paid for by the government.
      Juris praecepta sunt haec: honeste vivere, alterum non laedere, suum cuique tribuere.
      Justinian

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        Do I understand well that this translate to about 66M$ ?

        Sound fair for all that is included in the Teja (and the long Teja story). However, it would be cool to get the price down when you think at all that the IAF want the Teja Mk2 to be!

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          HAL is just ripping IAF as its the only company that can make Tejas , Any thing more than 40-45 USD million for Tejas wont fly much and it would eventually impact how many gets operational in the IAF.

          Hopefully MOD can put a Never Exceed Price with HAL on unit cost of Tejas
          "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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            I meant for testing Rkumar.
            My reply was in the testing context only as testing would lead us to engine certification. Sorry, if I could not formulate it properly.

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              Tejas Missed it's FOC. will it effect deliveries of the first batch?

              http://www.janes.com/article/81652/i...onal-clearance

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                First batch is for IOC fighters, so it won't be affected by slide in FOC deadline. The second batch of 20 jets were to be FOC standard. But that is mostly software related apart from the AAR probe, which has been in testing for some time now. Dry contacts have begun AFAIK. Actual aerial fuel transfer should start if no issues are seen.

                BTW, the journo does not seem to be aware that Gsh-23 gun firing has been delinked from FOC. It will be done, but FOC will not depend on that test point being completed.

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                  Thanks for your reply BlackArcher!

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                    Debunking Some False Arguments about the LCA Tejas

                    Is the Indian Air Force LCA "Tejas" a national humiliation and a failure?
                    "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                      BTW, the journo does not seem to be aware that Gsh-23 gun firing has been delinked from FOC. It will be done, but FOC will not depend on that test point being completed.
                      Mmm... Changing requirements to reflect non-performance?
                      Sum ergo cogito

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                        LM got us used to it....

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                          Considering it can carry a gunpod its a non-issue
                          Go Huskers!

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                            Naval LCA single seat prototype NP2 flies for the first time with the arresting hook integrated. Pic courtesy Sandeep Unnithan's twitter



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                              And some good news on the N-LCA front, this time from Shiv Aroor's Twitter


                              Terrific news. The LCA Navy project shelved by the @IndianNavy (but continued to support) has been reviewed & revived by the MoD under @NSitharaman. We’ll have a detailed report up tomorrow.

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                                Originally posted by BlackArcher View Post
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                                SHE LIVES!

                                That's great news.

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                                  And a great looking airframe in that color.

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                                    SHE LIVES!

                                    That's great news.
                                    yes, it is. The NP1 and NP2 prototypes of Naval LCA Mk1 will most likely continue to be used to perfect the key FCS FBW systems, LEVCON regime and arresting hook design. Landing on a land based deck and arresting hook deployment will likely be the next phases of flight testing. All this will feed into the technologies that will go into a Naval LCA Mk2 design, if that goes ahead.

                                    Given that the IAF Tejas Mk2 is now to be a much bigger and heavier design, it will likely feed off the Naval LCA Mk2 design that was longer, wider and heavier. Which could mean that a new Naval LCA Mk2 variant might well be in the works, if the Navy shows interest and supports the program.

                                    A lot of credit must go to the current Defence Minister, Nirmala Sitharaman, who is one of the best and most competent ones India has had, after the previous one, Manohar Parrikar. Both have been instrumental in supporting and resurrecting indigenous defence programs.

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                                      Naval LCA prototype NP2 flying for the first time with arrestor hook integrated. Video in the link below

                                      Livefist twitter link - video of N-LCA NP2 flying with arrestor hook integrated

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                                        So let's close our eyes and dream fast forward: HAL finished dev of the mini Naval LCA in its present form and gets a contract from Boeing (ToT for India buying SH) for a batch a Teja trainer built under specification of the US Navy to replace the Goshawk and train new pilot to trap 6th gen Delta fighters...

                                        Who's in?

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                                          The thing is this- the Naval LCA program as of now, is only a technology demonstrator. It hasn't progressed to IOC/FOC nor does it have the Navy's backing to enter service as a single seat fighter (which is what the NP2 prototype represents- basically a twin seater with the second seat removed and canopy faired over).

                                          It is likely that some support may emerge for the Naval LCA Mk2, a bigger and wider single seat fighter. If that happens, then there is a chance that instead of developing a twin seat variant of that Naval LCA Mk2, they may just go with the Naval LCA Mk1 twin seater variant as the fleet combat fighter trainer (based on the Naval LCA NP1 prototype).

                                          IF all that happens, and IF the US Navy doesn't see value in developing its own variant of whatever jet is chosen as the trainer for the USAF, only then can we even possibly imagine such a thing happening. I would not see it happening.

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