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  • Gerard
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Aug 2009
    • 2960

    Hi PEB.
    CASA III.
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    • PEB75
      Rank 3 Registered User
      • Jun 2018
      • 70

      Thanks!

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      • PEB75
        Rank 3 Registered User
        • Jun 2018
        • 70

        Slovak air forces used at least 4 different roundels during World War2:

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        According to this source: http://www.hrmodel.cz/images/letov_S...8_slovak_1.jpg

        - first roundel (red border) was used during the summer 1939;
        - second roundel (white border) was used from September 10th, 1939 to October 15th, 1940;
        - a German cross was added during the Polish campaign, beside the Slovak one;
        - the third roundel (cross) was used from October 15th, 1940.

        The fist and last roundel is the one used by the insurgents in August 1944.

        Question is: has anybody ever seen a picture of a Slovak aircraft sporting the red bordered roundel? In particular, I am looking for a Bloch MB.200 or an Avia B.534, but any other aircraft sporting the red bordered roundel is of interest to me!

        Thanks,

        PEB
        Last edited by PEB75; 21st December 2018, 15:05.

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        • Gerard
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Aug 2009
          • 2960

          No, sorry PEB. Still searching. (BTW: your link doesn't work)

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          • PEB75
            Rank 3 Registered User
            • Jun 2018
            • 70

            Now it does work!

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            • Gerard
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2009
              • 2960

              Always surprised to see that the Israelis can not paint a correct victory roundel.
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              • PEB75
                Rank 3 Registered User
                • Jun 2018
                • 70

                Early Philippines Army Air Corps (PAAC) used two different roundels before WW2: blue diamond inside a white diamond, with and without a red outline:

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                (Sorry, the white diamond of the first roundel cannot be seen on the white background of the forum)

                P-26 fighters used the first roundel:

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                There is a good color picture showing a Beech Model 18 sporting the other roundel, in Baguio, before WW2:

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                According to my sources, P-12 biplanes alos sported thi red outlined roundel, while B3 Keystone bomber had the same roundel than the P-26.

                Do you have other pictures of the PAAC before the war? I am wondering what markings did sport the B-10 bombers and the other aircraft.

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                • cthornburg
                  Skyvan Capt.
                  • Jan 2000
                  • 669

                  This is the only pix I have of the Martin B-10 can't see the markings under the wing. Also a pix of a model based on what?

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                  • Gerard
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2960

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                    • PEB75
                      Rank 3 Registered User
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 70

                      Thanks a lot gentlemen!!

                      cthornburg, do you have a better resolution version of your Martin B-10 picture?


                      gerard, second pic shows the B3 Keystone bomber, a row of P-26 and, I think a Texan trainer in the left background?

                      Can you identify the biplanes on the other two pictures? I would go for Stearman Kaydet trainers.

                      By the way, all the pictures you posted show the red-less diamond roundel (as far as can be seen).

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                      • PEB75
                        Rank 3 Registered User
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 70

                        Hello,

                        I'm looking for Bulgarian aircraft sporting this roundel:

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                        I have seen the Yak-9 on Gerard website, but I am looking more specifically for these models which should have sported this roundel:

                        Dornier Do 17
                        Junkers Ju 87
                        Focke Wulf Fw 189

                        Thanks by advance!

                        PEB

                        By the way, happy new year to everybody!

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                        • Gerard
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2960

                          sorry, I only got these so far: Me-109 / Ar-196 / FW-58 / FW-44 / Laz-7 ???? / Ar-196
                          Last edited by Gerard; 3rd January 2019, 21:48.
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                          • PEB75
                            Rank 3 Registered User
                            • Jun 2018
                            • 70

                            Thanks Gerard, these are inded the ones I got, probably coming from Insigna Magazine.

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                            • gkozak
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1168

                              Hellenic Air Force SAR Super Puma with unusual fuselage markings.

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                              • Gerard
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2960

                                Albania 1946 - 1958 roundel
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                                • Gerard
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Aug 2009
                                  • 2960

                                  The Republic of Bashkortostan also historically known as Bashkiria is located between the Volga River and the Ural Mountains. Its capital is the city of Ufa. With a population of 4,072,292 as of the 2010 Census, Bashkortostan is the most populous republic in Russia. It has no Air Force but the government used at least 2 An-74s with Russian registration and the Bashkortostan flag on the fin.
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                                  • Gerard
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Aug 2009
                                    • 2960

                                    Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter (I think) but what country is this? Russia?
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                                    • archangelski
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Jul 2013
                                      • 2377

                                      Yes, but in Lithuanian hands...
                                      Last edited by archangelski; 14th January 2019, 15:30.

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                                      • PEB75
                                        Rank 3 Registered User
                                        • Jun 2018
                                        • 70

                                        But still in (Red) Russian markings!

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                                        • PEB75
                                          Rank 3 Registered User
                                          • Jun 2018
                                          • 70

                                          Insurgents during the 1956 Hungarian uprising seized several aircraft. There were marked using the Hungarian flag:

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                                          There is a well known Mil Mi-4 helicopter picture showing these markings (but I don't manage to find it again...). I found also this less common photograph of an Aero Ae 45:

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                                          Have you other pictures of rebel aircraft during the 1956 uprising?

                                          Regards,

                                          PEB

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