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    Images of N-LCA from Tarmak blog





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      A lot more pics of the different rigs and details on the N-LCA from the Tarmak blog

      Tech Leap to future -Naval Aircraft

      I found this detail on the re-certification of the LRUs to be quite new. Didn't realise that this would be required.

      The feature of launch and recovery onboard carrier was another herculean assignment to be managed. The flare-less landing with high sink rate of 7.1 m/sec and heavy thumping with engine to full throttle till arrested by deck cable, is akin to a controlled crash of the aircraft on the ship every time it operates. This yields five times of loading on main landing gear as compared to Tejas.

      Sources say that in horizontal direction, the arrested shock recovery produces axial loads on aircraft structure of the tune of 4.5 g, calling for re-certification of all line replacement units (LRUs), components and associated systems of naval version to ensure fail safe operation repeatedly.

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        Originally posted by mirza2003 View Post
        please go through the LINK page
        accident happen on 8oct an airforce day at palam airport IMHO
        slip of tongue or. :O
        No aircraft ever crash during republic day parade
        oooops sorry.
        most of the posts above I touched upon were related to Republic Day, so thatz what slipped out when I typed. I'll correct it.

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          Those landing gears looks heavy and over engineered...I think those might have added weight to the overall structure.
          what is the weight ceiling planned for the NLCA?

          Shalav,
          what do you mean by WB setting??...white balance as in camera or anything else?
          Btw, if I'm not wrong.....even the models displayed in various expos for IAF and IN came in such a light color.

          Matt,
          I meant Swami targeting Sonia and clubbing the Rafale win to connection with ruling family.

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            Originally posted by BlackArcher View Post
            A lot more pics of the different rigs and details on the N-LCA from the Tarmak blog

            Tech Leap to future -Naval Aircraft

            I found this detail on the re-certification of the LRUs to be quite new. Didn't realise that this would be required.
            good info on whats coming and I heard that its a separate team for NLCA.

            But the interesting thing to look forward to will be how well the teams on LCA & NLCA are able to document their final product. A product without proper documentation is going to be a maintenance hell and a disaster in the making.

            Few years back, probably around the time when the first flight was carried out, there was an article which mentioned on the need for proper documentation of the aircraft. The author had mentioned the need for proper documentation (& proper placements/grouping of wires/pipelines etc rather than making it a birds nest) and that the designers of the LCA or HAL will not be able to get away and save their skin with LCA when something goes wrong by saying the documentation was that of the Russians or French or Brits and it was their fault.

            This is our first major aircraft project of this complex nature and I want to be optimistic that they are already with a proper documentation to the last nut and bolt.....

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              Originally posted by JangBoGo View Post
              what do you mean by WB setting??...white balance as in camera or anything else?
              The colour of the sky looks different in both images. The colour picker on my computer also shows the C130 image has a lighter sky. There is no exif image data in the images, so there is nothing there to evaluate. To me, based on the above, it looks like different WB settings or different post-processing or it could even be different cameras!

              If you don't have the data to arrive at a conclusion it only means there is insufficient data, not that it's a conspiracy!

              Not everything is, calm down...

              Btw, if I'm not wrong.....even the models displayed in various expos for IAF and IN came in such a light color.
              Please post links, it would be illuminating to see it.

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                IAF wants 6 more C 17s....
                http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/11885617.cms

                That will bring the total to 16 ...
                PEOPLE.FIRST.MISSION.ALWAYS.
                Have a good one..

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                  Originally posted by rayrubik View Post
                  IAF wants 6 more C 17s....
                  http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/11885617.cms

                  That will bring the total to 16 ...
                  nail coffin il-76

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                    IAF to induct Mi-17V5 helicopters into service tomorrow.

                    IAF to induct Mi-17V5





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                      A few pictures from Indian LUH trials..

                      http://www.gauravschimar.com/gallery.../#!prettyPhoto
                      PEOPLE.FIRST.MISSION.ALWAYS.
                      Have a good one..

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                        Sino-Indian border against the Chinese Air Force Base

                        India began a large-scale upgrade Sino-Indian border against the Chinese Air Force Base



                        Times of India reported that India will launch a massive nationwide program to upgrade Air Force base in the first stage in the 42 months to upgrade 51 air bases in 30, the second phase of the remaining Air Force Base, Navy, Army, Coast Guard to upgrade the airport, which focuses on the northeast border of Chinas regional base.

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                          IAF's new Mi-17V5 at its induction ceremony



                          Youtube link for Mi-17V5 in IAF. Video by Torque Aviation

                          Induction ceremony on Youtube

                          The video also shows the ramp door arrangement for these Mi-17V5s as compared to the clam-shell type rear door. Cockpit looks amazing too.
                          Last edited by Kramer; 21st February 2012, 01:47.
                          "By the whiskers of Kurvi-Tasch!"

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                            So if I understand correctly, the follow on order of 59 was increased to 71?
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                              Its seems like Ministry of Home Affairs wants its own fleet (instead of borrowing from already stressed out IAF and IA fleet) for logistics support and COIN operations to be shared by BSF, CRPF and ITBP

                              http://www.telegraphindia.com/112022...y_15161198.jsp

                              And they are still "tendering" the aircraft. :facepalm:

                              Why can't they simply order whatever the IAF, IA are using ? This is the height of bureaucratic ineptitude where nobody wants to do the right thing and wants to follow procedures instead.
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                                Slightly OT.
                                But take a look at this. Not often USAF personel give a brief about Russian helis.
                                This is the Mi-17-V5 for the AfAF.

                                Interesting nevertheless:

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Jep...endscreen&NR=1

                                My brother served in Stan. He said that those 'old' Mi-17 was an exellent choice for the high mounten region operation in Stan.
                                Its mostly on a 3000m level.
                                While NATO had a lot of down time service in their helis. Those Mi-17 keep the logistic and supply line running.
                                The AfAF old Mi-17 was not cleared for personel transport. But they did an exellent job nevertheless.
                                The irony was they kept flying spare parts for Naato helis..
                                They may not be much to look at, but they are well respected by all Nations over there.

                                With the new Mi-17-V5, it comes with improved engines and other stuff. Its a great and suiteble helis for the IAF as well.
                                Last edited by haavarla; 21st February 2012, 07:44.
                                Thanks

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                                  Originally posted by Twinblade View Post
                                  Its seems like Ministry of Home Affairs wants its own fleet (instead of borrowing from already stressed out IAF and IA fleet) for logistics support and COIN operations to be shared by BSF, CRPF and ITBP

                                  http://www.telegraphindia.com/112022...y_15161198.jsp

                                  And they are still "tendering" the aircraft. :facepalm:

                                  Why can't they simply order whatever the IAF, IA are using ? This is the height of bureaucratic ineptitude where nobody wants to do the right thing and wants to follow procedures instead.
                                  The UPA has been mortally afraid of single-vendor deals in case they get yet more allegations(and even worse, truthful allegations) of corruption for bribery and favoritism. Hence the artillery fiasco, the MMRCA circus, the Project 76I submarine tender that's yet to take off despite being considered since 2006) and so on. For similar reason every transaction also has miles of red tape and long, detailed procedures to be faithfully followed.

                                  Also lesser-known delays like the tender for a new Hummvee-style light transport vehicle for the army(RFIs originally issued to 7-8 indian manufacturers in 2007 or so, contenders like Mahindra Axe still under trial), the FICV program to replace the obsolete BMP-1/2s(DRDO showed an 'Abhay' technology demonstrator and interest was shown from multiple Indian private vendors as well, but it never moved forward), the Indian Navy's medium-range MPA tender(cancelled and re-started twice, I believe), the Sea King replacement helo tender(also cancelled and re-started at least once), the tender for acquiring amphibs for the Coast Guard etc.

                                  The few single-vendor deals they've approved are 'repeat orders' by the same customer(Mi-17s and Su-30MKIs for the IAF) and govt-to-govt FMS deals with the US. And a few deals that began in the NDA era like the Vikramaditya and Scorpene sale.
                                  Last edited by Witcha; 21st February 2012, 11:53.

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                                    Originally posted by Kramer View Post
                                    IAF's new Mi-17V5 at its induction ceremony



                                    Youtube link for Mi-17V5 in IAF. Video by Torque Aviation

                                    Induction ceremony on Youtube

                                    The video also shows the ramp door arrangement for these Mi-17V5s as compared to the clam-shell type rear door. Cockpit looks amazing too.
                                    looking mean. if there's one thing worth buying from Russia, its Mi-17s, along with MI-26, Mi-24, and long range SAMS

                                    so

                                    what are those plates on the side of the cockpit?

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                                      Indian Navy Chief Snipes Carrier Tejas



                                      The Naval Tejas programme really had this coming. After failing to get the LCA Navy airborne in January in what would have been the platform's hugely delayed first flight, Indian Navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma has rebuked the programme for its performance and delays.

                                      Speaking to The Hindu at Port Blair, Admiral Verma has been quoted as saying, "They [ADA] focused largely on the Air Force programme and the LCA [Navy] did fall behind….

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                                        HAL Tejas is being developed for Indian army as LCA (Light combat aircraft) since 1983. Its main goal is to replace old MIG 21. In present is done prototype PV-3. In some details is similar with Mirage 2000. Aircraft is very small and it belongs among the smallest and the lightest in the world. This aircraft is being developed for Indian army as LCA (Light combat aircraft) since 1983. Its main goal is to replace old MIG 21. In present is done prototype PV-3. In some details is similar with Mirage 2000. Aircraft is very small and it belongs among the smallest and the lightest in the world.

                                        Indian Air Force- 40 LCA Mk.1 aircraft on order and plans to order total 180 LCA Mk.1/ 2 aircraft
                                        The Indian Navy has a requirement for 50 Tejas aircraft.

                                        Per Price: US$31 million

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                                          Originally posted by J-20 Hotdog View Post
                                          looking mean. if there's one thing worth buying from Russia, its Mi-17s, along with MI-26, Mi-24, and long range SAMS

                                          so

                                          what are those plates on the side of the cockpit?
                                          Armor.
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