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  • Iranian F-14A
    Tomcats Forever
    • Feb 2005
    • 465

    Military BK-117s

    Anyone have any pics of BK-117s in military service? The main ones I'm looking for are the old Iraqi Air Force BK-117s used for SAR.Any other ones would be welcome too.Had a couple questions about the series in general.

    1.Does anyone know if,besides the BK-117M,there was anyone who operated an armed BK-117?

    2.since there were very few customers,compared to the Bo-105,does anyone know of countried that Evaluated it,or considered it,but decided not to purchase it? I can think of Canada,Germany and Japn who operated it in an experimental/evaluation role,but were there others?
  • roberto_yeager
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 917

    #2
    I remember, South Africa, Chile y Colombia, and Canad (only evaluation?



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    Last edited by roberto_yeager; 11th March 2011, 10:33.
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    • Tango III
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Sep 2006
      • 25347

      #3
      Iraq was bought between 24 to 28 aircrafts from Germany, starting from 1984 and used these planes in SAR missions and aircraft for general utility or VIP, and Iraq was one of the biggest users of this aircraft.

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      • Levsha
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jan 2006
        • 2788

        #4
        Originally posted by Tango III View Post
        Iraq was bought between 24 to 28 aircrafts from Germany, starting from 1984 and used these planes in SAR missions and aircraft for general utility or VIP, and Iraq was one of the biggest users of this aircraft.
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        Where are they now - any ideas?

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        • MSphere
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 8983

          #5
          Military operators of BK-117 included Bophuthatswana AF, Venda AF, Colombian Navy, Chile AF, Iraqi AF and South African AF.
          Other operators include Taiwanese Coast Guard, Japanese TRDI and one bird in civilian colors having worked for Nepalese AF.

          http://img99.imageshack.us/i/bk117enpaf.jpg/
          Last edited by MSphere; 11th March 2011, 16:07.

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          • Tango III
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Sep 2006
            • 25347

            #6
            Originally Posted by Levsha
            Where are they now - any ideas?
            All aircrafts that survived the Iran-Iraq war and UN. embargo have been destroyed or stolen after the occupation in 2003.

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            • BME330
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Jan 2000
              • 680

              #7
              Technically our Bk-117s in the Guardia Civil are military.

              http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VfKoN01d-J...c_00112338.jpg

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              • HAWX ace
                How do you turn this on?
                • Jan 2010
                • 696

                #8
                Originally posted by BME330 View Post
                Technically our Bk-117s in the Guardia Civil are military.

                http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VfKoN01d-J...c_00112338.jpg
                So do our own of the Fire Service...

                http://www.ellinikos-stratos.com/aeroporia/bk-117.asp



                An interesting side story: Back in 2002, the local "17 November" terrorist organisation was disbanded, and at some point there was only the head of the 17N missing, mr Yiotopoulos. His whereabouts were found at an eastern aegean island, preparing to flee to Turkey. In order not to attract any attention, SWAT policemen in fireservice uniforms went to the island using a fire service BK117 and arrested him on the spot, then they returned the same way... :diablo:
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                • benroethig
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 487

                  #9
                  Does the follow on EC145 count?

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                  • Bager1968
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • May 2005
                    • 3635

                    #10
                    Originally posted by benroethig View Post
                    Does the follow on EC145 count?
                    The EC 145 was originally referred to as the BK 117 C2.

                    In 2006, the "UH-145", a military variant of the EC 145, was selected for the United States Army's Light Utility Helicopter Program, beating three other helicopters. The planned 345 helicopters have been designated UH-72 Lakota by the U.S. Department of Defense for the United States Army. The first UH-72A was delivered in December 2006.





                    Originally posted by Iranian F-14A View Post
                    Does anyone know if, besides the BK-117M, there was anyone who operated an armed BK-117?
                    Armed Scout 645
                    A proposed armed version of the UH-72/EC145 being offered for the US Army's OH-58D replacement program.
                    Last edited by Bager1968; 14th March 2011, 06:40.
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                    • Gerard
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3018

                      #11
                      Here some BK-117s from different sources.


                      Bophutswana


                      Chili


                      Peru Police


                      South Africa


                      Spain Customs


                      Spain Guardia Civil

                      Gerard
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                      • Gerard
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 3018

                        #12
                        Here some EC-145s from different sources.


                        EADS Prototype of Armed Scout version


                        France Securite Civil


                        France Gendarmerie


                        USA UH-72A Medevac


                        USA UH-72A


                        3D View of EC-145


                        3D view of BK117

                        Note that the UH-72A doesn't have the windows in the rear doors
                        Compare the BK117 and the EC-145, the fuselage is slightly different and the EC-145 has 1 window more.
                        Also the vertical fins are different in shape as is the motor housing.

                        Gerard
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                        • Bager1968
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • May 2005
                          • 3635

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Gerard View Post
                          3D View of EC-145

                          3D view of BK117

                          Note that the UH-72A doesn't have the windows in the rear doors
                          Compare the BK117 and the EC-145, the fuselage is slightly different and the EC-145 has 1 window more.
                          Also the vertical fins are different in shape as is the motor housing.

                          Gerard
                          Kinda like the differences between the UH-1B, the UH-1D, the UH-1N, and the UH-1Y?
                          Germany, Austria and Italy are standing together in the middle of the pub, when Serbia bumps into Austria, and spills Austria's pint.

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                          • Iranian F-14A
                            Tomcats Forever
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 465

                            #14
                            I actually like the idea of using the UH-72 as an OH-58D replacement.Small enought to be a scout,but big enough to be used for other missions should it be required.

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                            • Rigga
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 89

                              #15
                              EC145 (Officially known as the BK117-C2) is significantly of Carbon Fibre contruction

                              It has no doorframes between the cockpit doors/cabin doors - meaning the opening is much larger for access.

                              It does not have a Column for control runs to the roof between the pilots - meaning the rear-seat views and comms are much better and the floor area is more usable.

                              There are two windows aft of the cabin doors.

                              The Clamshell (rear) door windows are an optional fit.

                              The stabiliser plates are larger and more Vee shaped.

                              The differences to the flight and engine controls are significantly different and (IMO) better than those on the -C1 (except for the Fuel Control Unit - still a fiddly mechanical thing) I think this needs a FADEC mod.
                              Last edited by Rigga; 15th March 2011, 21:57. Reason: Added the controls

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                              • Pillan56
                                Rank 4 Registered User
                                • May 2010
                                • 19

                                #16
                                Chile AF currently has one Bk-117 (H-32), the other was trespassed to Carabineros de Chile in October 2010; Carabineros (Chilean Police) has three of the type now on strength.

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                                • belgrano1977
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Jul 2012
                                  • 114

                                  #17
                                  Iraqi KW Bo-117
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                                  Originally posted by Pillan56 View Post
                                  Chile AF currently has one Bk-117 (H-32), the other was trespassed to Carabineros de Chile in October 2010; Carabineros (Chilean Police) has three of the type now on strength.

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