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  • J-20 Hotdog
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    • Mar 2008
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    Originally posted by Otaku View Post
    Paralay's cut & scale is better:

    pretty impressive edit!

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    • Wanderlei
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      • Oct 2005
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      Originally posted by haavarla View Post
      I'm not sure Wanderlei.
      There could be stuff floating around at Paralay's, but i havent seen anything.

      I do not agree with you on compairing the F-18 VS the Su-27, granted they both are twin engine aircraft but they got very different capabilities and where designed for two different strategic/tactical doctrines.

      Compairing the older Flanker against the T-50 makes sense to me.
      They both will have the same operational missions, more or less..
      They share some of the same capabilities, and they both come from the same manufactors.
      The new Su-35S and the T-50 will work as great combo.


      Thanks
      I see your point, and agree. Mostly equivalent purpose aircraft are compared and judged.

      But this time i was only talking about lines/shapes of design of the aircraft, not their designated purpose/mission, nor specs.

      I meant similar in looks would be same type a design. For example, Mig-21 and J-8II,

      Comparing looks of Su-27 to F-22 or T-50 like we did up there to me is sort of like comparing B-52 to Tu-160 totally different "types"

      cheers

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      • haavarla
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        • Dec 2008
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        Originally posted by Wanderlei View Post
        I see your point, and agree. Mostly equivalent purpose aircraft are compared and judged.

        But this time i was only talking about lines/shapes of design of the aircraft, not their designated purpose/mission, nor specs.

        I meant similar in looks would be same type a design. For example, Mig-21 and J-8II,

        Comparing looks of Su-27 to F-22 or T-50 like we did up there to me is sort of like comparing B-52 to Tu-160 totally different "types"

        cheers
        I get it Wanderlei.

        Ok, how about if the later series prod Pak-Fa will get a somewhat covered engine fuselage.
        I was thinking a more flatter square covered plating shielding the engine housing right aft to the Nozzles..?

        Will that do any good or just mess up the aft internal weapons bay?

        Thanks
        Thanks

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        • matt
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          • Sep 2003
          • 4929

          Any news of a naval PAK FA being developed?

          I believe there will be a new Russia aircraft carrier in the near future which surely should have new fifth gen Aircraft.
          Wrinkles wrinkles my kingdom fallen to a wrinkle

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          • Wanderlei
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            • Oct 2005
            • 486

            I think blending and flattening engines and intakes with the top frame/wings would be excellent upgrade. Right now, although it looks very cool (to me) as it resembles Flanker engines, it doesn't serve stealth at all.
            I don't see this reshape affecting internal missile bays.

            Naval version is always an easy mod in russia. Just add hook, and cut wings and install hinges so they can fold for more storage :-) Everything else is already built into design by default. :-))

            p.s.
            Is there confirmed number of flying T-50s and how many are being built as additional test frames?

            best regards.

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            • QuadroFX
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              • QuadroFX
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                Today will be a huge number of real HIGH-res photos and possibly the original video of second flight
                Last edited by QuadroFX; 24th May 2010, 13:56.
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                • QuadroFX
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                  • mack8
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                    • Nov 2009
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                    Really ? Where ?Where ?

                    Bet the first pic was taken from that buzzing Mi-8

                    Thanks for the new pics and updates Quadro!

                    Oh and any news about subsequent flights from Zhukovsky ?
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                      • secondparttohel
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                        Originally posted by QuadroFX View Post

                        The T-50 looks sooo fat in this angle

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                          • UAZ
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                            Originally posted by secondparttohel View Post
                            The T-50 looks sooo fat in this angle
                            The photo seems to be a bit distorted (fattened)

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                            • QuadroFX
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                              • QuadroFX
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                                My goooood!!!
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                                • mack8
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                                  Originally posted by QuadroFX View Post
                                  My goooood!!!
                                  Yes indeed my goodness... Such a terrible pity that the full-size pic looks blurred tho...

                                  But still ...WOW.
                                  Last edited by mack8; 24th May 2010, 15:24.
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                                  • QuadroFX
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                                    Original video from second flight: http://ifolder.ru/17851700
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                                      • QuadroFX
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                                        All photos are provided by shadowname, thanks to him for them.
                                        Last edited by QuadroFX; 24th May 2010, 16:47.
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                                          All photos are provided by shadowname, thanks to him for them.
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