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By: - 2nd November 2009 at 09:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Grumpy finally in the US
After watching Grumpy for many years at the Airshows here ,why did it have to go to the USA ? I guess its down to one thing ,,Money ,thats where all the money is ,just like the Tigercat ,i wonder why Grumpy was hidden away for a few years at North Weald ? was it the only one of its type flying in the UK ?
Terry
By: - 2nd November 2009 at 09:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
After watching Grumpy for many years at the Airshows here ,why did it have to go to the USA ?Possibly largely to do with the fact that the new purchaser lives in the USA.
By: - 2nd November 2009 at 13:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Bazinga
By: - 2nd November 2009 at 17:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As far as I remember the main reason for selling Grumpy was that few display organisers wanted to book a B-25 so there was little income to pay for maintenance etc.
At the end of the day if the aeroplane is such a huge drain on resources due to a lack of bookings it makes mores sense to sell it on and stick with the aircraft that contribute a larger amount towards their keep.
I was sorry to see Grumpy go but I must admit I don't remember many airshow appearances in recent times which means either I have a very bad memory or the aeroplane just wasn't that popular. Still a shame though and she will be greatly missed.
By: - 2nd November 2009 at 19:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes possibly... but also due to the fact that TFC 'governor' Stephen Gray is i believe now only authorised to fly single engine types. But as that includes the Seafury and Bearcat i doubt if he will mind too much.!
By: - 8th January 2010 at 22:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
When you look at the top picture on page 41 of the february issue of FP magazine 2010, it's hard to believe that Grumpy made the trip to the US. The propellor of the port engine is missing at least one blade!!!
By: - 9th January 2010 at 08:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It isn't a surprise aircraft id's get muddled when people can't spell the owners names - it's Mr Grey to you ;)
Ah yes.. sorry murlot ;).
By: - 9th January 2010 at 09:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
B-25's in UK (and continent)?! Where?
so finally she went home! Remember seeing her in mars 2005 and the guy's, at the time restoring a Beech in the same hangar let me in to see her, thanks. (Are they finnished with the Beech? Tomcat-Phil you know the Beech-planes!) They said she had to return to US before november (2005) becourse of the ensurance paperwork... but time fly.
At that time, 2005, there where 5(?!) Mitchells in UK, but now only two remains, (Hendon and Dx?). Hope attachment is included with a picture of BedSheetBomber, she was the purpose of the visit at North Weald.
The other three went to Holland (BedSeetBomber?), Belgium (GGAnn?) and US (Grumpy)?
What about the french Mitchell, did she go to a Swiss-collector? Not RedBull, is it?
Happy for updates on the Mitchell-status over here and in Russia!
By: - 9th January 2010 at 10:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Speaking of Grumpy, and going off at a tangent immediately, there's a pic in one of the big two historic mags this month of Grumpy, taken overlooking the M11 and the closest building to it. There's an intriguing looking pile of junk behind it. Looks like a Spitfire fuselage - I guess this is the FSM that made an unexpected take-off in a gale - and stood just a little way away is a pair of silver wings that look as though they might have swiss markings on. Has someone got a PC2 in bits over there?
Adrian
By: - 9th January 2010 at 10:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Bedsheet Bomber went to Parkhouse aviation at Booker near High Wycombe. Not heard or seen anything about it recently though.
By: - 9th January 2010 at 10:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I believe Stephen Grey commutes in a Swiss-registered PC-12. If I was clever I would post a picture of it taken at Duxford (but I'm not).
By: - 12th January 2010 at 20:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Dont think this has been posted
Video of Grumpy arriving in US
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5SBfMK28yM
By: - 12th January 2010 at 21:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I believe Stephen Grey commutes in a Swiss-registered PC-12. If I was clever I would post a picture of it taken at Duxford (but I'm not).
Is this the machine you mean? Caught coming into Flying Legends 2008 part way into the show;
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1087198/
By: - 12th January 2010 at 22:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
....why did it have to go to the USA ? I guess its down to one thing ,,Money ,thats where all the money is ,just like the Tigercat.....
Terry
Think of it this way...
What was the reason it (and the Tigercat) came to the UK in the first place...
Money perhaps?:D
By: - 13th January 2010 at 07:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Although Grumpy left for the USA, you still have our dutch "Sarinah" B-25 for your viewing enjoyment ;)...
Grtz,
TG1984
By: - 13th January 2010 at 08:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Although Grumpy left for the USA, you still have our dutch "Sarinah" B-25 for your viewing enjoyment ;)...Grtz,
TG1984
:( O yes, sorry! You got a real nice collection at Gilzen?, or did the planes move to an other base. Remember reading that a Mustang, some time ago was added to the assembly. Are they still operated from the same base, and where?
By: - 13th January 2010 at 09:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Their gain is our loss. I hope they enjoy Grumpy as much as we have for the last few years.:(:)
By: - 13th January 2010 at 11:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
When you look at the top picture on page 41 of the february issue of FP magazine 2010, it's hard to believe that Grumpy made the trip to the US. The propellor of the port engine is missing at least one blade!!!
:) Hadn't noticed that even though I took the picture. I can assure you it was there :D
By: - 13th January 2010 at 12:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:) Hadn't noticed that even though I took the picture. I can assure you it was there :D
Pffeew.... Thanks. I can relax again :D
By: - 13th January 2010 at 21:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Speaking of Grumpy, and going off at a tangent immediately, there's a pic in one of the big two historic mags this month of Grumpy, taken overlooking the M11 and the closest building to it. There's an intriguing looking pile of junk behind it. Looks like a Spitfire fuselage - I guess this is the FSM that made an unexpected take-off in a gale - and stood just a little way away is a pair of silver wings that look as though they might have swiss markings on. Has someone got a PC2 in bits over there?Adrian
No it's an unused Spitfire FSM from the same maker as the "one flight" only example. The Swiss markings are on the remains of the unfortunate P2 A-125/G-BLKZ which was written off after an engine failure/forced landing/conflagration-vandalisation incident.
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By: ZRX61 - 2nd November 2009 at 01:13
It cleared Customs today :)