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  • CeBro
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Sep 2009
    • 2146

    Hi Mike,

    The ones that are already on this forum or do you have more? I am looking for pics of the interior construction of the pilot's compartment
    on the starboard side. I do have drawings but photographs show mostly a clearer picture between structures. ANY pics of the pilot's compartment is useful.
    Thanks in advance
    Cheers
    Cees

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    • Whitley_Project
      If in doubt apply heat..
      • Jan 2000
      • 2842

      Hi Cees - I'll try and go this weekend for you. Can you let me know very carefully what you need so I don't dissapoint? Cheers

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      • turretboy
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Sep 2004
        • 564

        I found these. Definitely not the easiest area to photograph.







        I'll keep looking through other folders.
        Mike

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        • turretboy
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Sep 2004
          • 564

          Another....

          Mike

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          • CeBro
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Sep 2009
            • 2146

            Originally posted by Whitley_Project View Post
            Hi Cees - I'll try and go this weekend for you. Can you let me know very carefully what you need so I don't dissapoint? Cheers
            Hi Elliott,

            Just got back from Dublin, sorry couldn't reply sooner. You never dissapoint so don't worry.
            I am after the structural details in the starboard side of the pilot's compartment such as frame/stringer joints, brackets, fittings (if still attached) etc. I appreciate your help als always.

            Happy 2010 to all forumites!!

            Cheers
            Cees

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            • CeBro
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Sep 2009
              • 2146

              Hi Mike,

              Thanks for the pics, they are very helpful and also show the large
              electrical junction box on the starboard side, something I need to
              make some drawings for. PN323 doesn't have it fitted IIRC.

              Cheers
              Cees

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              • CeBro
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Sep 2009
                • 2146

                Pics taken on saturday, thanks Harm for taking them.

                Hope you like the current state of build.
                Cheers
                Cees
                Last edited by CeBro; 11th November 2010, 19:27.

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                • Peter
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2000
                  • 12507

                  Very impressive Cees! Will it be skinned and painted in ww2 colors? Noseart??
                  Cheers,Peter
                  "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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                  • 12jaguar
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1632

                    blimey Cees, you have been a busy chap!

                    I take back what I said earlier, we're not catching you up by any means.....

                    keep up the good work

                    John
                    http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                    • turretboy
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 564

                      WoW! I am impressed!

                      Just curious....what type of paint are you using?
                      Mike

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                      • Whitley_Project
                        If in doubt apply heat..
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 2842

                        Very nice Cees - It really looks fantastic. I promise I will upload the remaining half of the IWM photos as soon as I can but it's a bit tricky at the mo.

                        Well done!

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                        • CeBro
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2146

                          Thanks chaps,

                          Yes, to say that I am pleased with the current progress is an understatement Thanks to Lex van Heusden who works every wednesday on it (and I every other wednesday or spare hours) the progress is kept up to speed.

                          Peter: yes it will be fully skinned and I am looking for any suitable nose-art. Was thinking about "Ned Kelly's Gang Rides Again". I had a very nice profile of that in an old book by Gordon Swanborough but lost the book at some point.

                          Mike: I have a part of Halifax VII NA347 with the original green colour in excellent condition. It was matched against colourchips from a local paint supply store. Didn't want to pay over GBP 100 for postage alone for a tin of LAS paint. Spraypainting is not an option in the workshop so grey primer is first brushpainted and rollered on and after that the green coat. I am very please with how it turned out. The aim is not a factory fresh cockpit but one that looks like it has been in a museum (AKA PN323) for some time and looks used.

                          Elliott: take your time, I am already pleased with the pics you put op.

                          Cheers
                          Cees

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                          • CeBro
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2146

                            One more.

                            Cees
                            Last edited by CeBro; 11th November 2010, 19:27.

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                            • 12jaguar
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1632

                              Hi Cees,

                              Is a lot of the internal structure pop rivetted together, if so you're lucky, virtually everything on the Stirling is solid rivetted

                              John
                              http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                              • CeBro
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 2146

                                John,

                                If only, the structure of the Halifax also uses domeheaded rivets. In the first workshop when the project started we had pneumatic rivetting guns available and here we build the floorsection and some of the interior detals where rivets would be clearly seen. In the current building we do not have that luxury as we have no way to keep out water of the system that causes corrosion in the rivetting tools. Pop rivets are thus used but they are a very good alternative apart from the holw in the middle. These could be filled of course but that would be very tedious and together with the sawcuts in the frames for the radiuses we intend to keep it like this to show the workmanship that has gone into this build (97% Lex's work), and apart from the use of commercial aluminium, the rest is exactly according to specifications.

                                Cheers
                                Cees

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                                • 12jaguar
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 1632

                                  Cees

                                  The only place on the Stirling I've seen thus far that has pops is the shroud on the floor around the control column, as you say everything else is dome head solids. thankfully we've got a decent enough environment in which to carry out reaction rivetting, but we could do with a bigger compressor now.

                                  either way the standard of work on the Halifax is superb and if that's the only compromise other than using non aircraft grade metal then you're to be commended

                                  cheers

                                  John
                                  http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                                  • CeBro
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Sep 2009
                                    • 2146

                                    Well skip the Ned Kelly nose-art. It won't fit the cockpit or only the horse's (you know what) will be seen. So, any suggestions for a representative nose-art for a Mk III? The cockpit will short just short of the triangular port window and just below the side windows of the WOP and Navigator.

                                    Cees

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                                    • hindenburg
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Aug 2007
                                      • 1402

                                      Looks amazing Cees!!! I`ve had a few developments, but sadly can`t post any photos at the moment.
                                      `Information is the currency of democracy`. Thomas Jefferson

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                                      • hindenburg
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Aug 2007
                                        • 1402

                                        is that a torch holder left of the pilots seat on the bulkhead ?
                                        `Information is the currency of democracy`. Thomas Jefferson

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                                        • vacb
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 220

                                          Originally posted by CeBro View Post
                                          Well skip the Ned Kelly nose-art. It won't fit the cockpit or only the horse's (you know what) will be seen. So, any suggestions for a representative nose-art for a Mk III? The cockpit will short just short of the triangular port window and just below the side windows of the WOP and Navigator.

                                          Cees
                                          Not sure if it's for the correct Mk of Halifax but on page 114 of the "Metal Canvas" book by Stephen M Fochuk, there's a nice large piece of nose-art for "Easy Does It Too!" (429 "Bison" Squadron) that looks like it might fit.

                                          Sorry I am not able to scan and post it.

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