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  • CeBro
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Sep 2009
    • 2146

    He is, and I tell him regularly
    I learn a lot from him in the process by making small parts such as instrument panels, brackets, etc. Which is very enjoyable. We mostly work on wednesdays, with him every and me every other wednesday. The days we both work together are priceless and time goes like bananas. In two weeks time the museum season will be ending and then the whole project will be moved to another room in the museum. There a wall will be erected with windows so that starting next season (may 2010) vistitors can see the progress on a weekly basis while everything is closed off to prevent theft. So in the coming months progress will hopefully be rapid with definitive joining of parts (they are now temporarily fitted together using clamps,skinpins etc) and painting them. I have been busy spraypainting various insturment panels in the shed at home and the whole look of the parts is dramatically transformed. So, watch this space.

    Any info about those trimming tab knobs anyone?

    Cees

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    • 12jaguar
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Apr 2007
      • 1632

      Any info about those trimming tab knobs anyone?

      Are they metal or resin?

      Is it possible to make some patterns and get them cast up. We've been busy making wooden patterns or making good original items to use as patterns so that we can cast new ones up. Rudder pedal plinths, pedal adjusters and control column upper mounts have been manufactured in this way

      John
      http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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      • CeBro
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Sep 2009
        • 2146

        John,

        They are made from bakelite/plastic or something similar. I have the remains of three (the two aileron ones you see in the pic some posts back) of which the rudder one has the neck broken off and is irrepairable. The other ones have "stem issues" as they are of a different type than used in the Halifax. Mine came from Blackburn Beverly's (shame on me). I just want to know if these items are available in the UK or are similar to hen's teeth. In that case I will have to combine the three to make two relatively comple ones. The faces will have to be restored too.

        Cees

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        • 12jaguar
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Apr 2007
          • 1632

          Best of luck with the search, hope something comes up
          http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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          • CeBro
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Sep 2009
            • 2146

            So they are made from unobtanium then
            Think I must be lucky to have the three then.
            Cees

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            • CeBro
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Sep 2009
              • 2146

              short update, without pics unfortunatly. Dropping camera's is not good for their health I found out by mistake.

              The cockpit as shown in the various photo's on this topic has been relocated to the display area and has now been fully assembled (apart from loosely put together with skinpins and clamps earlier. The various cockptframes are fitted to the floor and the whole thing has been transformed into something that looks suspiciously like something Handley Page used to build decades ago.

              The cockpit bulkhead and pilot's floor were painted interior green this morning (yes I enjoyed it very much) and the pilot's seat is now wearing a nice green coat as well. The rudder pedals are in primer and will join the green queue.Next is to fit the pilot's seat to the floor so that a certain FlyPast correspondent based in the Netherlands can finally let loose on it. Pics to follow soon I hope, but things are going very very well.

              Cheers
              Cees

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              • 12jaguar
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Apr 2007
                • 1632

                Hi Cees

                Good to see that things are coming along really well and I hope that the move wasn't too traumatic. We might be in a position to start painting some stuff green soon as well (well after Chrimbo anyway).

                John
                http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                • CeBro
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2146

                  Good to hear that John,

                  I am looking for the small black bakelite connector blocks (5C/431 IIRC) and
                  one size bigger.

                  Any leads in the UK?
                  Cees

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                  • Air Ministry
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1695

                    I am looking for the small black bakelite connector blocks (5C/431 IIRC) and
                    one size bigger.
                    Hi Cees,

                    I should be able to help as I have most types. Can you state exactly which size you need?
                    The garage that keeps on giving.

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                    • CeBro
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2146

                      Hi Alan,

                      Yes, i will look up the ref nrs and let you know.
                      Cheers
                      Cees

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                      • Whitley_Project
                        If in doubt apply heat..
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 2842

                        Well done Cees - But what a time to break your camera! itching to see how it looks now. Keep up the good work

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                        • 12jaguar
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1632

                          Originally posted by CeBro View Post
                          Good to hear that John,

                          I am looking for the small black bakelite connector blocks (5C/431 IIRC) and
                          one size bigger.

                          Any leads in the UK?
                          Cees
                          Cees

                          If it's the next size up for the 2 way connector block, that'd make it a 5C/516. Hope that helps

                          John
                          http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                          • CeBro
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2146

                            Originally posted by Air Ministry View Post
                            Hi Cees,

                            I should be able to help as I have most types. Can you state exactly which size you need?
                            Alan,

                            The smaller ones are 5c/430, I need about a dozen of those, and the
                            other ones could be 5C/516, I have put of a pic but the ref nrs are
                            unreadable, but they are about 1/3 bigger and have two brass scews
                            in them as opposed to one as 5C/430. I need only two of those.

                            Hope this helps,
                            Cheers
                            Cees
                            Last edited by CeBro; 11th November 2010, 19:26.

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                            • Bruce
                              Independent analyst
                              • Jan 2000
                              • 10223

                              3 ways are 5C/432

                              I have them if Alan doesnt



                              Bruce

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                              • CeBro
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 2146

                                Alan,

                                You have a PM.

                                Cees

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                                • CeBro
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Sep 2009
                                  • 2146

                                  Hi chaps,

                                  Plenty of progress but no working camera yet. I am working on that (too).

                                  Does anyone of you on this forum have plans in the near future to visit the IWM Lambeth by any chance? I am in need of some close up pics of the cockpit structure in the pilot's compartment of PN323. Anyone? (Elliott, you live round the corner, do you go there sometimes during lunchbreaks?)

                                  Cheers
                                  Cees

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                                  • Deryck
                                    Ex RAF EMT.
                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 227

                                    When Ian Foster recovered the bomb doors for NA 337 from the monastery up by Brackla he also placed an advertisement in the local area newspapers as he had heard that lots of Halifax parts had been distributed around the area and rumours of nose glasses used as cold frames were mentioned.

                                    Unfortunately nothing turned up!

                                    We eventually had to have a commercial outfit mould one for us, as everything we tried did not work out.

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                                    • QldSpitty
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Apr 2006
                                      • 2622

                                      For recreating bakalite,try mixing in coffee grounds with resin to get the right colour.
                                      "If the C.O. ask's you to be Tail End Charlie...just shoot him!!!....A Piece of Cake.
                                      http://spitfirea58-27.blogspot.com.au/

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                                      • CeBro
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Sep 2009
                                        • 2146

                                        Update as of today, the control column is now fitted and the
                                        frames are growing together (must get that camera soon).

                                        Anyone in the vicintiy of IWM Lambeth soon?

                                        Cees

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                                        • turretboy
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Sep 2004
                                          • 564

                                          Originally posted by CeBro View Post

                                          I am in need of some close up pics of the cockpit structure in the pilot's compartment of PN323. Anyone?
                                          If they're of any use, I have a some cockpit photos taken during the NA337 restoration.
                                          Mike

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