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  • 12jaguar
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Apr 2007
    • 1632

    I notice that you now refer to the cockpit as 'she'.....

    John
    http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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    • CeBro
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Sep 2009
      • 2146

      She's a beauty.

      Cees

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      • EHVB
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jan 2000
        • 1449

        Sounds like antropomorfism to me, a feeling most crews had/have towards their flying/driving/floating (war)machines

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        • CeBro
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Sep 2009
          • 2146

          Time for an update, space is getting restricted inside with all those windows getting in the way. Shame on me for keeping retired Lex so active

          Cheers

          Cees
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          • Blue_2
            YAM Meteor spanner monkey
            • Feb 2010
            • 5006

            Looking good!
            Restoring Meteor NF.14 WS788, one rusty nail at a time...

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            • FarlamAirframes
              Scrap Metal Man
              • Nov 2007
              • 1444

              Cees - Excellent work as always.

              I see that it is Lexan - polycarbonate that you are using - stronger and more flexible than acrylic (polyacrylonitrile). I use the same.

              Just be careful with the solvents when you paint as it solvent crazes very easily.
              Kind Regards,

              Brian

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              • CeBro
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Sep 2009
                • 2146

                Hi Brian,

                Thanks for the reply, yes Lexan is used but the window with the blue protective cover is acrylic, it is much harder to work on as it shatters easily and Lex had to use some creative words to show his opinion about this product. We were wondering about the sensitivity of the Lexan regarding paint. So everything should be properly masked off before painting then?

                Cheers
                Cees

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                • FarlamAirframes
                  Scrap Metal Man
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1444

                  Cees - if you can keep the protective sheet in place - keep it in place - even though it looks nasty for a while. Otherwise you will have to use good quality masking tape and cover everything as any solvent from the painting will find its way onto the surface and cause crazing and if there is any stress - the solvent will cause cracking.

                  Less robust than acrylic when used with solvent - but far stronger.

                  Safety Helmets are made using Polycarbonate - which is why you are not supposed to paint them, use stickers etc - as the solvent causes a reduction in crystallisation and hence weakness.
                  Kind Regards,

                  Brian

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                  • Fouga23
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 2257

                    So is acrylic, what we call plexiglass over here? The stuff you get from hardware stores? If so, I can attest to the shattering. Did a Fouga canopy with it and the first attempt shattered when I tried to bend it.
                    Magister Aviation
                    It's all in my book

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                    • Peter
                      Moderator
                      • Jan 2000
                      • 12507

                      Lexans pretty decent to work with. Our Lanc canopy is done in Lexan.
                      Cheers,Peter
                      "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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                      • CeBro
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2146

                        Yes, Lexan is the best choice but bl@@dy expensive.

                        Cees

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                        • CeBro
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2146

                          Tadaah!

                          Construction is finished! The last window has been fitted on the escape hatch frame. Now everything that can be unbolted will be removed so that the interior can be painted. This year should see the cockpit mostly finished although the work to install wiring etc. can still be trickcy.

                          Herer are some pics showing the Lexan in place, one window that had perspex fitted has been replaced as well as the perspex was too brittle. And the glycol spray thingies are fitted as well. Strange that the Halifax had no windscreen wipers, the wind must have taken care of that.
                          Hope you like it.
                          Cees
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                          • Peter
                            Moderator
                            • Jan 2000
                            • 12507

                            Looks good Cees. Lancs and Hali's didnt have wipers fitted..
                            Cheers,Peter
                            "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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                            • Whitley_Project
                              If in doubt apply heat..
                              • Jan 2000
                              • 2842

                              Oh well done sir! I bet you are over the moon Cees. Congratulations from myself and Max!

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                              • Phantom Phil
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1062

                                ...and the rest?

                                So when is the centre section being started ;-p Oh and I hope you have x4 Hercules radials on order....

                                Thoroughly enjoyed following this thread so far!

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                                • CeBro
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Sep 2009
                                  • 2146

                                  Yes, over the moon and back again

                                  Obviously I am very pleased how this project has evolved over the years. I never could have thought that the quality could be achieved as it has now.
                                  Painting it will be fun as well as fitting it out, that will transform a natural metal structure into a fully operational Halifax cockpit.

                                  Several people have asked the same about extending the cockpit forward or backward, but this is as far it will go.

                                  This thread is actually meant to inspire people to do something similar.
                                  How about it chaps, but please, not another Lancaster or Spitfire....
                                  Cees

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                                  • Air Ministry
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Jan 2008
                                    • 1695

                                    Congratulations Cees, I look forward to seeing it in the flesh one day.

                                    Now, I'm going to highjack the thread a little so please forgive me!

                                    On a recent visit to the IWM, I photographed this item of equipment in the Halifax nose section, just under the forward edge of the nav table. The red pipe leads to an intake or vent in the port side nose skinning.

                                    Can anyone tell me what it is please?
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                                    Last edited by Air Ministry; 23rd January 2011, 14:14.
                                    The garage that keeps on giving.

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                                    • hindenburg
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Aug 2007
                                      • 1402

                                      Originally posted by Air Ministry View Post
                                      Congratulations Cees, I look forward to seeing it in the flesh one day.

                                      Now, I'm going to highjack the thread a little so please forgive me!

                                      On a recent visit to the IWM, I photographed this item of equipment in the Halifax nose section, just under the forward edge of the nav table. The red pipe leads to an intake or vent in the port side nose skinning.

                                      Can anyone tell me what it is please?
                                      Looks like an Air Milage Unit to me,I used to have one.Thought these were fitted to Lancs too..under the Navs Table.
                                      Last edited by hindenburg; 23rd January 2011, 14:25.
                                      `Information is the currency of democracy`. Thomas Jefferson

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                                      • Jack Ruskin
                                        Key Troll-aux magnet
                                        • Nov 2006
                                        • 1396

                                        Originally posted by CeBro View Post
                                        This thread is actually meant to inspire people to do something similar.
                                        How about it chaps, but please, not another Lancaster or Spitfire...
                                        Ok Cees, what do you suggest ? What would you like to see ?



                                        .
                                        Oh no not ~another~ separate thread about Newark (the unfriendly museum) !

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                                        • Peter
                                          Moderator
                                          • Jan 2000
                                          • 12507

                                          A manchester cockpit..!
                                          Cheers,Peter
                                          "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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