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  • Peter
    Moderator
    • Jan 2000
    • 12508

    Really?? Not sure what happened there Cees as it was cut using an original drawing!?
    Cheers,Peter
    "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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    • CeBro
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Sep 2009
      • 2146

      Well, it didn't fit but for just a panel it's sufficient.
      I was told (don't know the source at the moment) that it was drawn according to the
      exact dimensions the NA337 team provided. But the CNC operator made the panel just
      a bit smaller to fit the machine.
      All parts in the cockpit have been made according to the drawings and it turned out
      the panel was to short and lacked sufficient height to fit.
      That's all I know.

      Cees
      Last edited by CeBro; 12th November 2010, 15:28.

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      • Peter
        Moderator
        • Jan 2000
        • 12508

        Well shoot cees I am really sorry about that and do not know what went wrong!? Apologies from this end.
        Cheers,Peter
        "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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        • CeBro
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Sep 2009
          • 2146

          Peter,

          Don't be, you have been a big help.
          Cheers
          Cees

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          • Peter
            Moderator
            • Jan 2000
            • 12508

            And you too Sir, thanks!
            Cheers,Peter
            "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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            • hindenburg
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2007
              • 1402

              Didn`t you get one of the large junction boxes in the starboard side of the nose off me ?
              `Information is the currency of democracy`. Thomas Jefferson

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              • CeBro
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Sep 2009
                • 2146

                Hi Martin,

                No, the junction box you see is completely new made using photographs taken by me and Elliott inside PN323 at IWM Lambeth and sockets I had from a Halifax electrical panel (which itself was in bad condition) as well as some I got from Alan. Next problem to solve is to find the plugs that fit onto them to complete the wiring. That job alone (apart from finding the plugs) will take a lot of time as well.
                Do you have any Halifax junction boxes then Martin? Any idea where to find the various plugs (two, five, seven, eleven etc. pins)
                Cheers
                Cees

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                • Bruce
                  Independent analyst
                  • Jan 2000
                  • 10224

                  What type of plugs are they? Pics please?

                  I've got a load of Mossie and Lancaster type; I'm betting they are the same



                  Bruce

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                  • CeBro
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2146

                    Bruce,

                    You were the first I thought about regarding the plugs when I saw some in your e-store. I will take some pics this next wednesday and post them here. I think they are general issue as well.

                    Cheers
                    Cees

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                    • Bruce
                      Independent analyst
                      • Jan 2000
                      • 10224

                      The ones in the shop are postwar ones, but I have a bunch of wartime ones, that should fit the bill. Wartime are soldered; postwar are crimped.


                      Bruce

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                      • hindenburg
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1402

                        There was a chap who had a wiring loom (not sure which part) for a Halifax,and also a Lanc one. The Project got an unused bomb bay wiring loom for a Stirling off him together with all the junction boxes. Last thing I heard though was he`d donated all his stuff to a museum near Kettering.
                        `Information is the currency of democracy`. Thomas Jefferson

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                        • hindenburg
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1402

                          Originally posted by CeBro View Post
                          Hi Martin,

                          No, the junction box you see is completely new made using photographs taken by me and Elliott inside PN323 at IWM Lambeth and sockets I had from a Halifax electrical panel (which itself was in bad condition) as well as some I got from Alan. Next problem to solve is to find the plugs that fit onto them to complete the wiring. That job alone (apart from finding the plugs) will take a lot of time as well.
                          Do you have any Halifax junction boxes then Martin? Any idea where to find the various plugs (two, five, seven, eleven etc. pins)
                          Cheers
                          Cees
                          I thought you`d had a Hali Junction box off me at an aerojumble,sure it was you I`d brought one along for..maybe 10 years ago !!!I may have some junction boxes do you have any images you could post on here ?
                          `Information is the currency of democracy`. Thomas Jefferson

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                          • CeBro
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2146

                            Martin,

                            We met at the 2003 Shoreham Aerojumble, I got the flight engineers seat topframe from you and some Rotax bits.

                            Amazing to read that someone had complete wirings looms for Lanc, Stirling and Halifax. IIRC several years ago Glen Newman had a collection of Halifax bits including complete insturment panels etc. as well as junction boxes but they were relatively corroded and were put on ebay. He had quite a lot of interesting Halifax bit but I couldn't afford the prices.
                            Cheers
                            Cees

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                            • CeBro
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2146

                              Some pics taken this morning.

                              The side console with the levers for the undercarriage, flaps and bombdoors is now finished. All levers move within the limits as designated on the drawing.The collapsible seat for the flight engineer is also fully funcional and awaits an original seatbelt (dated 1942) as well as the cushions which still need to be made.

                              Bruce, about those breeze plugs, what do you need for information. The number of pins or the diameter of the sockets?
                              Cees
                              Attached Files

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                              • Jester1979
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 109

                                The cockpit looks amazing. Maybe you could advise the Yorkshire Air Museum on how to manufacture some authentic forward fuselage frames for their Halifax to replace the wooden ones!

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                                • CeBro
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Sep 2009
                                  • 2146

                                  Jester,

                                  Don't think that's fair to YAM. Their efforts were to recreate an externally accurate Halifax with the means they had. They have totally succeeded in that goal. My aim is to make the most accurate Halifax cockpit possible keeping as close to the manufacturers drawings as possible. Just a matter of different perspectives.

                                  Cheers
                                  Cees

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                                  • Jester1979
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Sep 2010
                                    • 109

                                    Apologies, didn't mean to cause offence, I am actually a great admirer of YAM and what they achieved with their Halifax

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                                    • CeBro
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Sep 2009
                                      • 2146

                                      So am I, but you guessed that already.

                                      Cees

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                                      • CeBro
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Sep 2009
                                        • 2146

                                        Update,

                                        She now has five windows fitted.

                                        Cees

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                                        • Whitley_Project
                                          If in doubt apply heat..
                                          • Jan 2000
                                          • 2842

                                          Photos please!!

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