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By: 20th February 2009 at 15:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I believe 'Eagle' was the most likely - there was an emerging 'birds of prey' theme for naming fast jets at this time (Harrier, Kestrel, slightly later Hawk) and this was considered the front runner. 'Trenchard' had also been mooted.
By: 20th February 2009 at 16:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-There was a thread on this a while ago, and the general consensus was that TSR-2 would probably have been Eagle, P1154 Harrier and F-111K Merlin.
In similar vein, were any names kicked around for the HS681, seeing as serials were allocated? (XT261 to XT266). And were any serials allocated for P1154?
By: 20th February 2009 at 17:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Shades of the aircraft names thread here.
Eagle dosen't fit well at all, the Harrier and Kestrel were very strong VSTOL fighter relations and the Hawk a trainer, all were HS designs and could be argued as not being fast jets.
There really dosen't seem to be much of a common naming policy at the time, with Lightning and Phantom (fighters) and Canberra, Buccaneer and Jaguar (Strike) all about at the planned service time.
If it was to follow suit at all it would have been named after a city of the UK (or ex Commonwealth), but which one would have suited?
If I had to guess I would have said that it would have picked up the wind theme again - like the Tornado did.
By: 20th February 2009 at 17:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Shades of the aircraft names thread here.Eagle dosen't fit well at all, the Harrier and Kestrel were very strong VSTOL fighter relations and the Hawk a trainer, all were HS designs and could be argued as not being fast jets.
There really dosen't seem to be much of a common naming policy at the time, with Lightning and Phantom (fighters) and Canberra, Buccaneer and Jaguar (Strike) all about at the planned service time.
If it was to follow suit at all it would have been named after a city of the UK (or ex Commonwealth), but which one would have suited?
If I had to guess I would have said that it would have picked up the wind theme again - like the Tornado did.
As I said in the Names thread, the policy changed!
Eagle actually may not have been the chosen name - this thread reveals a lot!!
By: 20th February 2009 at 17:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Shades of the aircraft names thread here.Eagle dosen't fit well at all, the Harrier and Kestrel were very strong VSTOL fighter relations and the Hawk a trainer, all were HS designs and could be argued as not being fast jets.
There really dosen't seem to be much of a common naming policy at the time, with Lightning and Phantom (fighters) and Canberra, Buccaneer and Jaguar (Strike) all about at the planned service time.
If it was to follow suit at all it would have been named after a city of the UK (or ex Commonwealth), but which one would have suited?
If I had to guess I would have said that it would have picked up the wind theme again - like the Tornado did.
But I don't think the Gusty GR1 would have instilled fear in our enemies! :rolleyes:
By: 20th February 2009 at 17:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-There was a thread on this a while ago, and the general consensus was that TSR-2 would probably have been Eagle, P1154 Harrier and F-111K Merlin.
In similar vein, were any names kicked around for the HS681, seeing as serials were allocated? (XT261 to XT266). And were any serials allocated for P1154?
I've not seen serials for P1154, but the favoured name was 'Harrier'
By: 20th February 2009 at 18:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The naming policy may have changed over the years Dave, but a coherent one seems to have been non existant by the late '60s
By: 22nd February 2009 at 06:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-How about Swordfish II?
By: 22nd February 2009 at 06:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Like the Canberra, I think they were hoping for Australian sales. So the BAC Bundaberg? BAC Bunbury? :p
By: 22nd February 2009 at 08:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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If it was to follow suit at all it would have been named after a city of the UK (or ex Commonwealth), but which one would have suited?
If I had to guess I would have said that it would have picked up the wind theme again - like the Tornado did.
Wellington II ? (New Zealand, but I guess not wind related?)
I'm sure I read somewhere that "Excalibur" was touted as well? maybe thats just part of the TSR-2 myth !
By: 22nd February 2009 at 09:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Wellington II ? (New Zealand, but I guess not wind related?)
Not been there then? It's not called windy Wellington for nothing!
By: 22nd February 2009 at 12:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-For the cynic's - 'Unservicable'
For the supporters -'Vanquish'
By: 22nd February 2009 at 14:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I do like the name "Bunbury" suggested by JDK, reminds me of the importance of being earnest.
By: 22nd February 2009 at 15:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Elephant (plus Blanc for european exports).:rolleyes:
John
By: 22nd February 2009 at 19:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-How about BAC Swan
By: 22nd February 2009 at 19:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-In keeping with the elements: Tempest, Tornado, Typhoon or Cyclone. Bird: Eagle or Hawk. Here's an idea, had the project ever been resurrected at a later date then how about, TSR2? The title may just have been a project title Tactical Strike Reconnaisance 2, but it has become so attached to the aircraft that I don't think it could be called anything else.
By: 22nd February 2009 at 19:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Something to give a pain in the a%$e for the enemy; how about TaSeR 2?
By: 22nd February 2009 at 20:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-In keeping with the elements: Tempest, Tornado, Typhoon or Cyclone. Bird: Eagle or Hawk. Here's an idea, had the project ever been resurrected at a later date then how about, TSR2? The title may just have been a project title Tactical Strike Reconnaisance 2, but it has become so attached to the aircraft that I don't think it could be called anything else.
I can't imagine the VC-10 known as anything else so you have a point. U2 & F-111 as well to follow our transatlantic cousins...
By: 23rd February 2009 at 08:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The naming policy may have changed over the years Dave, but a coherent one seems to have been non existant by the late '60s
Yep! The 'naming' of the VC10 confirms that!! It seems to have been the manufacturer gave a list of possibilities, then the Air Staff decided on which one they liked.
US Names were adopted for NATO commonality and multi-national projects needed names that were easily translatable.
By: 23rd February 2009 at 09:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Tactical Strike Reconnaisance 2, but it has become so attached to the aircraft that I don't think it could be called anything else.
On the contrary, we all knew one project as the MRCA for many years. Only near entry into service did it become Tornado.
Moggy
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By: MrBlueSky - 20th February 2009 at 15:52
If she had been given the go ahead... :confused:
I've never seen any mention of what she might have been called if she had been put into production. Where there any put forward?