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    #21
    Originally posted by pagen01 View Post
    Hi Jag, great to see these updates and info, and really good news that the project is moving forwards. Would love to see more pics (especially the U/C crate). I have some original diagrams of the Stirling U/C and the way it works, immagine you already have, can scan them if you do want them.
    It would be good to see a total project update and what you already have done and what parts you have, just for us newerbies!
    Is this the only UK Stirling project?

    One of my old WL795 colleagues is ex Stirling aircrew, liked it as something to fly in, hated it as something to go to war in!
    I'll take some pics of the RAFM u/c crate that we have on loan and post them at the weekend. Unfortunately it will have to return to them soon. As for more info, we have recently re-vamped our website so that it is less 'clunky' and should be easier to use (see link below)
    http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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      #22
      Nice to see yet another Stirling column back in the UK
      Officially now a pensioner

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        #23
        There's another one in the Netherlands. The story about it still hurts in the hearts of some people.

        Cheers

        Cees
        Ultravox at Lokeren 08.08.09, I was there!

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          #24
          Originally posted by Cees Broere View Post
          There's another one in the Netherlands. The story about it still hurts in the hearts of some people.

          Cheers

          Cees
          Hi Cees,

          Would that be the one that the owner wants a lot of money for?

          Junk Collector mentions that this is yet another Stirling Control Column back in the UK, I wasn't aware that there are any others can anyone elaborate?

          John
          http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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            #25
            Originally posted by 12jaguar View Post
            We intend to carefully dismantle it and use the parts as patterns to manufacture 2 new ones, it will then be re-assembled and displayed in its current form as it is a great exhibit in its own right.

            John
            Sorry to open a philosphical argument but surely wouldnt incorporating the original into the project give the project more originality and history than a reproduction. Obviously everyone has, and is entitled to their own opinion but that is my feeling.
            Officially now a pensioner

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              #26
              Originally posted by 12jaguar View Post
              Hi Cees,

              Would that be the one that the owner wants a lot of money for?

              Junk Collector mentions that this is yet another Stirling Control Column back in the UK, I wasn't aware that there are any others can anyone elaborate?

              John
              Hi John, yes that's the same. Looks like the projected cockpit section is having it's fittings gathered. Good show.

              Cheers

              Ces
              Ultravox at Lokeren 08.08.09, I was there!

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                #27
                I also know in the UK the precise location of an Original Stirling Instrument panel. The owner does not wish to part with it though.
                Officially now a pensioner

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Junk Collector View Post
                  Sorry to open a philosphical argument but surely wouldnt incorporating the original into the project give the project more originality and history than a reproduction. Obviously everyone has, and is entitled to their own opinion but that is my feeling.
                  Hi,

                  I have had similar thoughts on this matter and where possible we intend to incorporate as much original equipment as possible into the reconstruction of the cockpit section. In this case however, the control column has been sectioned for instructional purposes and would be inappropriate to put into the cockpit. However, it is a godsend in that we can temporarily build up the missing sections of casting so that we can create new moulds. We have drawings of some of the items and some originals as well, so we will try to be as sympathetic as possible with the re-build.

                  John
                  Last edited by 12jaguar; 22nd April 2008, 20:16.
                  http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by hindenburg
                    Hi Junk Collector,would this be the same same panel I put a picture of,on the forum this morning ?A clear outline tracing would suffice even if the owner did not want to part with it.
                    I think it's worth noting that Hindenburg and ourselves have the same aim and an accurate drawing/tracing of said instrument panel would benefit both of us

                    cheers

                    john
                    http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                      #30
                      Hi all,

                      As it has been a while since I've posted an update I thought I'd post a few picks of what we've been up to. Following on from the acquisition of the control column from Delft and the use of some parts that Pondskater has leant us, we've been able to commence reverse engineering 2 new control columns. They may not look much but there has been a lot of activity in making new patterns and drawing up of items. The 2 major castings are still fairly rough and need some machining to finish them off.

                      John
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                      Last edited by 12jaguar; 1st September 2011, 12:33.
                      http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                        #31
                        Simply amazing
                        "If the C.O. ask's you to be Tail End Charlie...just shoot him!!!....A Piece of Cake.
                        http://spitfirea58-27.blogspot.com.au/

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                          #32
                          can't agree more, excellent work going on there. Will the project concentrate on the fittings
                          before starting on the cockpit structure? are those drawings already finalized?

                          Exciting times to see what progress has been made in recent years by the stirling project.

                          Cheers

                          Cees
                          Ultravox at Lokeren 08.08.09, I was there!

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                            #33
                            I second that! Well done chaps

                            DS
                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

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                              #34
                              Originally posted by Cees Broere View Post
                              can't agree more, excellent work going on there. Will the project concentrate on the fittings
                              before starting on the cockpit structure? are those drawings already finalized?

                              Exciting times to see what progress has been made in recent years by the stirling project.

                              Cheers

                              Cees
                              Hi Cees

                              A fellow Forumite is making steady progress in producing a CAD model that is already confirming some of the hardcopy drawings that we have produced in the past, most dimensions coming out less than 1/32 of an inch apart which is pretty accurate/reasonable in my book. Once the model is developed we can then start on producing jigs and templates to allow frame manufacture to proceed.

                              We are making some of the fixtures and fittings as:-

                              a. we have original drawings and/or items
                              b. They are more readily transportable allowing us to display them in a cockpit context (see previous posts)

                              John
                              http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                                #35
                                Stunning work there guys.
                                It is a shame that such lovely work will be hidden away.
                                Best of luck with the rest of the project.
                                It is only kinky the first time...

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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by Arm Waver View Post
                                  Stunning work there guys.
                                  It is a shame that such lovely work will be hidden away.
                                  Best of luck with the rest of the project.

                                  Well you know what they say, 'The devil is in the detail'

                                  At least at the end of this we can sit in the seats and play hangar pilot:diablo:
                                  http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                                    #37
                                    Originally posted by 12jaguar View Post
                                    . . and the use of some parts that Pondskater has leant us . .
                                    Delighted to help - and especially seeing the quality of the parts you are getting made. The bits on loan are from the floor of a Sunderland given to me years ago. It turned out have castings that were missing from the Delft column. Just shows, Stirling parts turn up in the strangest places. I didn't know I had some under my bed!

                                    Originally posted by Arm Waver View Post
                                    It is a shame that such lovely work will be hidden away.
                                    It is but it is also marvellous to know that under the floor or behind the panels everything will be in place and right. Painstaking work but well worth it. Well done to all involved.
                                    "Writing is easy - all you have to do is stare at a blank piece of paper until your forehead bleeds." - Douglas Adams

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                                      #38
                                      Hi all

                                      Just a quick note to explain why I haven't updated this thread for a while. Work is still progressing on the project aim of reconstructing the forward fuselage section, but unfortunately we've had to put our plans on hold for the time being as we've been temporarily evicted from our workshop due to the revelopment of RAF Wyton. We lost our previous workshop as it was required by the Station although we were able to operate from a couple of small rooms that still had light and power.

                                      Unfortunately we were then evicted from them as well as the rest of the Hangar refurbishment was brought forward, this has necessitated everything moving on to the hangar floor and has stopped all major work as we have no power in the hangar and we can't even use a portable generator.

                                      That said the MOD have been very supportive and we will be moving into new, fully refurbished accomodation within the same hangar that will actually be much better than our previous workshop. The only downside is the disruption to our progress just as we were getting up a head of steam and we have lost a certain amount of storage space which has meant exploring the loaning out some of our sizeable relics.

                                      The FN5 Nose Gun Turret is now safely located in the warm and dry of the Wyton based Pathfinder Museum. Work is progressing on the fabrication of items such as the control column bottoms and various other small items so we're not idle.

                                      With any luck we will be back working in earnest by the end of Feb/March.

                                      cheers for now

                                      John
                                      http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                                        #39
                                        Thanks for the update John,

                                        Well if this minor set back will result in better accomodation then it will have to be part of the process won't it? A good outlook for the future at least.

                                        Good to hear that you have so much support at Wyton, totally the opposite happened to Russ Snadden and his cew whil restoring Black Six.

                                        Keep it up

                                        Cheers
                                        Cees
                                        Ultravox at Lokeren 08.08.09, I was there!

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                                          #40
                                          Hi Cees,

                                          The MOD have been very supportive of our project over the years and have asked very little of us in return. We always support the Wyton Families day and have a very good relationship with the resident Pathfinder Museum. There are currently a lot of changes happening to the infrastructure at Wyton and it will cease to be the recognisable Bomber Station it once was. In fact I think that in time it may cease to be an RAF establishment as it is being given over to Defence Intelligence (a contradiction in terms if ever there was one!:diablo So we'll hace to see what the future holds in the long term when the new lords and masters take over.

                                          In the meantime, we have continued support and the RAF has given exactly the accomodation that we'll need to take forward the Project.

                                          Belatedly I must extend our public thanks to MarkG for helping us to get the large control column items cast. (shown above).

                                          regards all

                                          John
                                          http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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