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By: Denis - 11th September 2007 at 10:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

Hi,all
we could find a few of these and there would be plenty for everyone including museums etc ,lets find them before its too late,
by pooling all our knowledge together there could be a very impressive group, and doing the aviation world a favour by finding these places,i know of quite a few rumours over the years ,and one eyewitness definate .also they dont need licensing by the MOD as they are not crash sites,no rules cover the berial of what was then rubbish,any one up for the challenge

Thanks, but no thanks. I think the HAMG will keep poking about finding the odd bits and pieces ourselves. You lot would take the fun out of it:p

By: Newforest - 11th September 2007 at 12:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

Don't worry Merkle, just think of ostriches!:D

By: Denis - 11th September 2007 at 14:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

cripes !! ,it was only a suggestion, and searching with a mag is just as hard as with a detector,but if people dont act soon, it will be lost as the eyewitnesses are all dying off, !!
thats all i was implying

And I was not intending to pee on your parade merkle, just that for some airfield research groups, the finding of, and excavation of, an airfield dump is top on their list. We would not be happy having another group approaching the landowner, digging up and taking away artifacts we have been searching ages for.
It is how you worded it that comes across as being..well...greedy...to me at least!, and I did put a smiley thingy in the post to show it was meant in lightheartedness:) just like that!

By: fighterace - 12th September 2007 at 00:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

And I was not intending to pee on your parade merkle, just that for some airfield research groups, the finding of, and excavation of, an airfield dump is top on their list. We would not be happy having another group approaching the landowner, digging up and taking away artifacts we have been searching ages for.
It is how you worded it that comes across as being..well...greedy...to me at least!, and I did put a smiley thingy in the post to show it was meant in lightheartedness:) just like that!

Well chris, seems like they have the view on insitue archeology, leave it all rusting away for someone else to find!! Get that magnetometer out there may be gold buried in the hills:D

These old dumps arnt that hard to find given the correct kit and aerial photos, if you want to dig one chris have a calilier attitude:diablo: , i will clean the spade off as a nice 50cal would look nice on the jeep

By: Denis - 12th September 2007 at 01:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

Well chris, seems like they have the view on insitue archeology, leave it all rusting away for someone else to find!!

No, not what I said fighterace. In theory, We would not be happy if the area we were interested in was dug by another group. Especially if that group found items and removed them and would not display the parts locally in context with the airfield they were found on.

if you want to dig one chris have a calilier attitude

I take it you meant 'have a cavalier attitude' I too have been involved with Aviation archaeology for the last thirty years. The last thing the Aviation Archaeology movement needs is a 'cavalier attitude' A wrong choice of words on your count Sir!

By: ZRX61 - 12th September 2007 at 14:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

1 engine as my dream is to do one up to running standard, doesnt have to be a merlin, a radial would have been nice ,but i must be the biggest loser in the game as all these years i have nothing to show for all the hard work i have put in, purely for the love of it...
Chris C:D

Ever consider just going to a salvage yard & buying one?;)

By: fighterace - 12th September 2007 at 16:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

No, not what I said fighterace. In theory, We would not be happy if the area we were interested in was dug by another group. Especially if that group found items and removed them and would not display the parts locally in context with the airfield they were found on.

I take it you meant 'have a cavalier attitude' I too have been involved with Aviation archaeology for the last thirty years. The last thing the Aviation Archaeology movement needs is a 'cavalier attitude' A wrong choice of words on your count Sir!

Dont you just love the forum, its just like the predictive text on my phone. You can really get some people going. Wish i had as many bits when i go fishing!!!:D

By: Denis - 12th September 2007 at 16:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

Yes that true enough, personally i have recovered some excellent finds deeply buried from complete hurricane control columns to almost undamaged merlins that would run again with a lot of money spent and to be fare they have granted ownership.

There you go merkle, he's got one or two lying about according to an earlier post on another topic. Make him an offer:)

By: Graham Adlam - 12th September 2007 at 17:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

but ,if you knew me i am one of the most modest,un greedy kind of man,I am just so frustrated after spending on and off since the age of 14 years old (now 36Y/O) researching franticly in my hobby of aviation archaeology to find just 1 ,only 1 engine as my dream is to do one up to running standard, doesnt have to be a merlin, a radial would have been nice ,but i must be the biggest loser in the game as all these years i have nothing to show for all the hard work i have put in, purely for the love of it,so the last thing i am is greedy,just frustrated, and now own a new magnetometer ,so trying to improve my chances,I believe that items found in a certain area (Belong) in that area as it is History from the area they are found,all i am after is a engine to rstore I cant afford to buy such a beast so i have to hunt for them, even if they exist,would love a wright cyclone more than anything, old herc engine to big a thirsty and complicated,thats all dennis,so if by helping groups who are searching for a big cache of parts a engines and i got one i would be over the moon,even if it was 50 of them, etc, sorry t sound greedy ,but just drasticly clinging on to my dream, which the way its going will never happen ,but cant be put down for trying
all the best
Chris C:D

Hello Chris I agree you must be very unlucky to search for so long and find nothing. When i spoke to you the other day I thought you were already onto a good dump? and several aircraft. If you need a good digger driver i can recomend Fighter Ace i have seen him in action and he's a Pro, good luck searching.

By: Graham Adlam - 12th September 2007 at 17:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

thanks ever so much for that, i just didnt think to go to that scrap yard called "Merlins are us "":D :confused:

cor whilst i am, at it can i buy a complete He111 fora quid, heard they are going cheep in the costa del sol, and merlins and all this wartime junk ,people just cant seem to shift it, bloody inundated with all this spitfire rubbish,:diablo: :D :p
just as if :rolleyes: :confused:

You would surprised what can be picked up from scrap dealers, some engines are not expensive especialy radials, I have seen several running examples for under £1000. I once imported 15 meteors from the Netherlands for under £500each.

By: Graham Adlam - 12th September 2007 at 17:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

There you go merkle, he's got one or two lying about according to an earlier post on another topic. Make him an offer:)

I have seen them :)

By: Graham Adlam - 12th September 2007 at 17:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

Dont you just love the forum, its just like the predictive text on my phone. You can really get some people going. Wish i had as many bits when i go fishing!!!:D

Figher Ace if you were as good at fishing as you are at recovering aircraft you would hold the British record for the biggest fish LOL:diablo:

By: ZRX61 - 12th September 2007 at 23:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

thanks ever so much for that, i just didnt think to go to that scrap yard called "Merlins are us "":D :confused:

cor whilst i am, at it can i buy a complete He111 fora quid, heard they are going cheep in the costa del sol, and merlins and all this wartime junk ,people just cant seem to shift it, bloody inundated with all this spitfire rubbish,:diablo: :D :p
just as if :rolleyes: :confused:

I take it thats a "no" then?:rolleyes: As recently as 10 years back Pounds Yard in Pompey had Napier (sea)Lions laying about. Place near me has at least 6 9cyl radials laying in the weeds, some with mounts etc still attached... & a complete, but chopped up, S2(?) Tracker filling a hole in his fence.
Another place across town has a complete R4360 stuck in a ditch at the side of the road.. & just up the road from that is a pub with half a Cessna embedded in the roof...& about 15 miles away is a B25 wedged into a canyon...& the engines are just laying there....

So instead of just blowing off my original question with a *(un)witty comeback* you might want to actually look ABOVE ground....... At least from your attitude I can see why you didn't even THINK about asking your local salvage yards....

By: fighterace - 13th September 2007 at 07:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00

There you go merkle, he's got one or two lying about according to an earlier post on another topic. Make him an offer:)

Sorry to dissapoint you this little beauty is not for sale, there are plenty buried if you know where to look but finding a good one, well that another matter.

Wonder if merlin pete got any room in that old conservetry:D