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By: 15th May 2007 at 21:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Is this the PRIV BP929 that is being restored in Sweden?
Look at picture filename!!
By: 15th May 2007 at 21:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks Paul - obvious now you point it out!
:)
By: 15th May 2007 at 22:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Provisionally BP929...but not 100%.
Mark
By: 15th May 2007 at 22:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The slow rebuild of this PR.IV continues. The "c/n" quoted is 6S/138536.
By: 15th May 2007 at 23:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The slow rebuild of this PR.IV continues. The "c/n" quoted is 6S/138536.
...and it is correct. Here is the cockpit data plate.
The provisional RAF serial is based on some crude pencil marks found under the firewall data plate that could be interpreted as '929'.
The Russian records will eventually solve this one.
Mark
By: 16th May 2007 at 08:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-As I have understand it - the Russian Maritime AF recived seven PR.IVs and BP929 was one of them. RAF serials of the other six..?
All Russian PR.IVs were used by the same unit; 118 ORAP.
This Spitfire was lost in a crash on 29.2.44 when P/O L I Yel'kin flew into the Vaddasgaisafjället (mountain) in Northern Norway during a mision against Altenfjord.
By: 16th May 2007 at 11:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-As I have understand it - the Russian Maritime AF recived seven PR.IVs and BP929 was one of them. RAF serials of the other six..?
More than seven. I post this from my office, so can't quote the numbers, but there once was an article in "Air Enthusiast" on Soviet PR Spitfires, entitled "Unarmed, Unafraid, and Unaccompanied", which listed them all in detail.
Air Britain's "Spitfire International" (by Helmut Terbeck, Harry van der Meer, and Ray Sturtivant) also gives the answer to your question.
By: 16th May 2007 at 12:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Spifire PR IV in Sweden
I doubt that this wreck will ever be restored in Sweden. The lack of facilities, knowledge and money are some of the unsurmountable obstacles in the way of a successful outcome of such an undertaking. I'd love to be proven wrong, but until then...sorry, no way.
Kenjohan
By: 16th May 2007 at 13:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-More than seven. I post this from my office, so can't quote the numbers, but there once was an article in "Air Enthusiast" on Soviet PR Spitfires, entitled "Unarmed, Unafraid, and Unaccompanied", which listed them all in detail.
Air Britain's "Spitfire International" (by Helmut Terbeck, Harry van der Meer, and Ray Sturtivant) also gives the answer to your question.
Ok, thanks! The number seven is from studies made in Russian archives.
I doubt that this wreck will ever be restored in Sweden. The lack of facilities, knowledge and money are some of the unsurmountable obstacles in the way of a successful outcome of such an undertaking. I'd love to be proven wrong, but until then...sorry, no way.Kenjohan
Hmmm ... Of course it wont be easy, but how much do you know about this project? :rolleyes:
By: 16th May 2007 at 13:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I doubt that this wreck will ever be restored in Sweden. The lack of facilities, knowledge and money are some of the unsurmountable obstacles in the way of a successful outcome of such an undertaking. I'd love to be proven wrong, but until then...sorry, no way.Kenjohan
Have you been following progress?
Mark
By: 16th May 2007 at 13:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Eleven PR IV Spitfires are reckoned to have been supplied to Russia under operations 'Tungsten', 'Orator' and 'Source'.
The serials are known.
Mark
By: 16th May 2007 at 14:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Eleven PR IV Spitfires are reckoned to have been supplied to Russia under operations 'Tungsten', 'Orator' and 'Source'.The serials are known.
Mark
Thanks! :)
Still not many to chose from... which should make it possible to establish (also) the RAF id
By: 16th May 2007 at 14:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks! :)Still not many to chose from... which should make it possible to establish (also) the RAF id
Well I and the owner have been trying for some time. :)
Mark
By: 16th May 2007 at 15:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Well I and the owner have been trying for some time. :)Mark
Yupp, me and the owner aswell. Sven is more or less convinced it is BP929 :)
By: 16th May 2007 at 15:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Great to see a pic of the remains.
What are the plans? Will it fly or will it become a static rebuild.
Good to see interesting things happening in Sweden.
Sweden: 12 points:)
Cheers
Cees
By: 16th May 2007 at 15:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Great to see a pic of the remains.What are the plans? Will it fly or will it become a static rebuild.
Good to see interesting things happening in Sweden.
Sweden: 12 points:)
Cheers
Cees
Thanks, Cees!
Some parts of the wreck will fly, aswell as the plate ;)
By: 16th May 2007 at 15:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I doubt that this wreck will ever be restored in Sweden. The lack of facilities, knowledge and money are some of the unsurmountable obstacles in the way of a successful outcome of such an undertaking. I'd love to be proven wrong, but until then...sorry, no way.Kenjohan
Kenjohan
I don't think Swedish enthusiasts will have to wait too long before they have a Spitfire on their civil register.:)
Mark
By: 17th May 2007 at 21:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Eleven PR IV Spitfires are reckoned to have been supplied to Russia under operations 'Tungsten', 'Orator' and 'Source'.The serials are known.
Mark
11 Serials were:
AB132
AB423
AB427
BP884
BP889
BP891
BP917
BP923
BP926
BP929
BR658
Delivered as
4 + 7 (1 Spare)
By: 30th May 2007 at 15:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-KenjohanI don't think Swedish enthusiasts will have to wait too long before they have a Spitfire on their civil register.:)
Mark
Perhaps not on the register as of today, but you weren't kidding were you...! RW386 is now in Sweden!
T J
By: 30th May 2007 at 17:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Perhaps not on the register as of today, but you weren't kidding were you...! RW386 is now in Sweden!T J
Well fancy that.
Mark
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By: Spiteful - 15th May 2007 at 19:11
Found the picture in the attached link :
http://www.spitfire-pr4.com/
Is this the PRIV BP929 that is being restored in Sweden? Anyone know how this is getting along?
Also, reading the 'Spitfires and Polished metal' book, it states AB130 as a PRIV survivor - I know this one was a crach recovered aircraft, so is it considered complete enough to class as a complete aircraft, or is it a collection of recovered material?
Thanks.