By: Will J
- 10th June 2005 at 13:03Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Now that would open a whole new can of kerosene fuelled worms, whilst I realise that a Meteor NF11 never engaged in combat with an Me262, somebody would have to be there to give a bit of balance :D
By: Chipmunk Carol
- 10th June 2005 at 13:17Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If Mrs grand parent doesn't like a/c then Old|Warden has other options.
Yes, she may be sick of them after having had to build so many of them!
Old Warden has atmosphere, but Flying Legends has the slickest, best-choreographed air show I have ever seen, and I've seen a fair number internationally. I know of no other airshow where you cannot bare to look away for a moment.
Take them to Legends and if they thoroughly enjoy it, take them to Old Warden on another day. The Sunset Displays are excellent.
By: Arm Waver
- 10th June 2005 at 13:31Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Images of a bare Janie looking away flashed through my mind when I read this.......... :eek:
Me too.... Must be catching - Should I get out more? :confused:
ONe year I'll get to Legends - I have a long standing commitment to work over at Turweston for the Grand Prix weekend and it seems to clash again... :(
By: JDK
- 10th June 2005 at 14:00Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hmmm.
If your blue touch paper isn't lit by W.W.II metal, Legends will be very repetative and boring, with queues for the toilets, entry and exit, and a lot of routemarching over a big (usually wet) airfield. And I like the place! but I wouldn't take anyone there without making sure it was their thing.
Mrs JDK will go to any number of Old Wardens, but finds Duxford mainly boys and toys. Other non-aviation friends I've taken to either venue give 100% thumbs up to OW (unless it's wet :( ) and mixed results to DX. Depends on what you like.
I've borne looking away quite a lot at Flying Legends. P-51D doing figure of 8 tailchases don't work for me. There's a couple of times I'd rather not have been watching too. Old Warden's feeling of risk is quite different.
By: Paul F
- 10th June 2005 at 15:45Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
At risk of adding nothing to this discussion....
All comments so far are perfectly valid.
Having taken older in-laws to Shuttleworth Display at Old Warden, they really enjoyed the intimate "garden party" atmosphere, even the Mum-in-Law ( :eek: ) found the day bearable :) . Although I never took them to Legends, I feel that they, not being particularly "WWII aircraft lovers" would have found endless WWII machines a little tedious. Also, if they get bored and want to look around static aircraft the nature of Duxford mena sthey will either have some very long walks, or miss a lot of gorund-bound exhibits, whereas Old Warden is about the size of two small ish fields, with a relatively compact set of hangars, and a fairly short static park. Personally I would enjoy either show, but then I'll watch just about anything that flies!
So, if the oldies in question just fancy a good day out but are not particulalry WWII fans I would recommend OW as favourite. However, if they have a hankerring to see loads of Mustangs or Spitfires, or other WWII hardware then Legends might be better bet.
As Moggy says, Dx and OW are geographically fairly close, so unless you live on doorstep of one or other travelling to either would probably be similar. In either case try to convince them that an early start is worthwhile to avoid sitting in traffic queues on way in, and at OW you might even be able to watch flying from the car should it rain (perish the thought- rain in UK in July, surely not! :D ).
Doubt this has clarified your choice much :confused: , but best of luck whichever you choose.
By: JDK
- 11th June 2005 at 00:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Listening to the views and moans etc ie wet airfields and prices and toilets etc then why don't you all just stay at home
Why stop there? I left the country. :p
Just to clarify though, DX and Old Warden are two of my favourite places on the globe. I can't say I enjoy them on a wet weekend.
The work of certain TFC denizens is wonderful. Their posts here, four times out of five, add nothing, except a certain troll-like grumble. Still it's good to let off steam. Or hot air. Or something. Oh, and personally, I never need complain about the entry fees. ;)
By: curlyboy
- 12th June 2005 at 00:32Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
flying legends
I have been going to flying legends for a few years now and i have never stood in a line for the loo's, and i sometimes sit by the car during the displays as that is a good place for unimpeeded views and i have some great pics of both b17s from a few years ago which had no ones head in it or half of the american air museum, as for old warden it is great but is certainly NOT in the same league as flying legends. and as for the rain hide under the shackleton or victor you cant do the at old warden (it also works if the suns out like last year).
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By: ZRX61
- 12th June 2005 at 03:13Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Many years ago Avro's Finest walked out of the TFC office building & found some oik peeing up against the side of the T2... 'hey, thats looks just like a real penis.. only smaller" at which point everyone within earshot turned to look... :D
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By: Chris G - 10th June 2005 at 12:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Re: Jets
Moggy said "Who knows? They might really prefer a jet/heavy metal show."
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By: Chris G - 10th June 2005 at 12:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I appreciate that is blindingly obvious this morning. I'll stop digging
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By: SteveYoung - 10th June 2005 at 12:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Me262 anyone?
Sorry, I'll get me coat...
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By: Will J - 10th June 2005 at 13:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Now that would open a whole new can of kerosene fuelled worms, whilst I realise that a Meteor NF11 never engaged in combat with an Me262, somebody would have to be there to give a bit of balance :D
~duck~
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By: Chipmunk Carol - 10th June 2005 at 13:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, she may be sick of them after having had to build so many of them!Old Warden has atmosphere, but Flying Legends has the slickest, best-choreographed air show I have ever seen, and I've seen a fair number internationally. I know of no other airshow where you cannot bare to look away for a moment.
Take them to Legends and if they thoroughly enjoy it, take them to Old Warden on another day. The Sunset Displays are excellent.
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By: Moggy C - 10th June 2005 at 13:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:D :D :D
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By: Arm Waver - 10th June 2005 at 13:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Me too.... Must be catching - Should I get out more? :confused:
ONe year I'll get to Legends - I have a long standing commitment to work over at Turweston for the Grand Prix weekend and it seems to clash again... :(
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By: JDK - 10th June 2005 at 14:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hmmm.
If your blue touch paper isn't lit by W.W.II metal, Legends will be very repetative and boring, with queues for the toilets, entry and exit, and a lot of routemarching over a big (usually wet) airfield. And I like the place! but I wouldn't take anyone there without making sure it was their thing.
Mrs JDK will go to any number of Old Wardens, but finds Duxford mainly boys and toys. Other non-aviation friends I've taken to either venue give 100% thumbs up to OW (unless it's wet :( ) and mixed results to DX. Depends on what you like.
I've borne looking away quite a lot at Flying Legends. P-51D doing figure of 8 tailchases don't work for me. There's a couple of times I'd rather not have been watching too. Old Warden's feeling of risk is quite different.
Cheers!
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By: Moggy C - 10th June 2005 at 14:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm sure Whitefox is a FlyPast subscriber, so no queues for the luxury bog for him and his frandparents :)
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By: Auster Fan - 10th June 2005 at 14:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Is the world REALLY ready for that??!!!
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By: Mark V - 10th June 2005 at 15:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Now come on James, the Legends show has had one or two run-ins with weather but its usually blazing sunshine that weekend :cool:
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By: Paul F - 10th June 2005 at 15:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
At risk of adding nothing to this discussion....
All comments so far are perfectly valid.
Having taken older in-laws to Shuttleworth Display at Old Warden, they really enjoyed the intimate "garden party" atmosphere, even the Mum-in-Law ( :eek: ) found the day bearable :) . Although I never took them to Legends, I feel that they, not being particularly "WWII aircraft lovers" would have found endless WWII machines a little tedious. Also, if they get bored and want to look around static aircraft the nature of Duxford mena sthey will either have some very long walks, or miss a lot of gorund-bound exhibits, whereas Old Warden is about the size of two small ish fields, with a relatively compact set of hangars, and a fairly short static park. Personally I would enjoy either show, but then I'll watch just about anything that flies!
So, if the oldies in question just fancy a good day out but are not particulalry WWII fans I would recommend OW as favourite. However, if they have a hankerring to see loads of Mustangs or Spitfires, or other WWII hardware then Legends might be better bet.
As Moggy says, Dx and OW are geographically fairly close, so unless you live on doorstep of one or other travelling to either would probably be similar. In either case try to convince them that an early start is worthwhile to avoid sitting in traffic queues on way in, and at OW you might even be able to watch flying from the car should it rain (perish the thought- rain in UK in July, surely not! :D ).
Doubt this has clarified your choice much :confused: , but best of luck whichever you choose.
Paul F
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By: DIGBY - 10th June 2005 at 18:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Listening to the views and moans etc ie wet airfields and prices and toilets etc then why don't you all just stay at home :D
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By: Andy in Beds - 10th June 2005 at 18:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I was going to do just that. :)
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By: Moggy C - 10th June 2005 at 23:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
So your attitude is that we should never tell people asking for information the downside as well as the upside?
Why is that?
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By: JDK - 11th June 2005 at 00:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why stop there? I left the country. :p
Just to clarify though, DX and Old Warden are two of my favourite places on the globe. I can't say I enjoy them on a wet weekend.
The work of certain TFC denizens is wonderful. Their posts here, four times out of five, add nothing, except a certain troll-like grumble. Still it's good to let off steam. Or hot air. Or something. Oh, and personally, I never need complain about the entry fees. ;)
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By: curlyboy - 12th June 2005 at 00:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
flying legends
I have been going to flying legends for a few years now and i have never stood in a line for the loo's, and i sometimes sit by the car during the displays as that is a good place for unimpeeded views and i have some great pics of both b17s from a few years ago which had no ones head in it or half of the american air museum, as for old warden it is great but is certainly NOT in the same league as flying legends. and as for the rain hide under the shackleton or victor you cant do the at old warden (it also works if the suns out like last year).
curlyboy
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By: ZRX61 - 12th June 2005 at 03:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Many years ago Avro's Finest walked out of the TFC office building & found some oik peeing up against the side of the T2... 'hey, thats looks just like a real penis.. only smaller" at which point everyone within earshot turned to look... :D
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By: Moggy C - 12th June 2005 at 09:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Quoted from a James Bond film. :)
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