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  • Distiller
    Talent on Loan from God

    First B-29 in Europe

    When did the first B-29 come to Europe?
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  • Paul Cushion
    Psychedelic Superstar

    #2
    I think one landed at Burtonwood in 1943/44.

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    • Flat 12x2
      Rank 5 Registered User

      #3
      March '44, one was deployed to the U.K. on a allied 'familiarization tour', actually a decoy to get the enemy to think that the B-29's were going to be used in Europe

      Martin
      Wide open & turning left

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      • Skipper
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        #4
        Flat 12x2's date of March '44 rings a bell with me. It definitely landed at Knettishall and one other operational base before returning to the ZOI. I think the other base was Glatton.

        Regards

        Graham

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        • Distiller
          Talent on Loan from God

          #5
          I came up with November 1946, when six were deployed to Rhein/Main.
          And didn't Eisenhower use one as staff plane?
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          • Skipper
            Rank 5 Registered User

            #6
            Distiller,

            Somewhere I have a photo of the 1944 "tour" when it landed at Knettishall - I'll try and dig it out...

            Has this question not been asked before on here?

            Graham

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            • Skipper
              Rank 5 Registered User

              #7
              In Roger Freeman's excleenet Mighty Eighth War Manual on Page 205 is pictured B-29 41-36963 at Glatton on 11 March 1944

              Returned to ZOI on 10 May 1944

              Sorry, scanner isn't working at the mo...

              Regards

              Graham

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              • J Boyle
                With malice towards none

                #8
                Since someone brought it up...did the Germans fall for the ruse about the possibility of using B-29s in Europe?
                There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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                • EN830
                  Ex UNGUE LEONEN

                  #9
                  I wonder how much more deverstating the bombing would have been had they been used in Europe, from what I can gather their bomb load was 12,000lb's more than the B17 and B24.
                  Ian

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                  • TempestNut
                    Rank 5 Registered User

                    #10
                    Originally posted by J Boyle
                    Since someone brought it up...did the Germans fall for the ruse about the possibility of using B-29s in Europe?
                    Think TA152 and BV155 and I think you have your answer.

                    The First B29 to reach England was in fact one of the 14 YB29s and it flew to England, partly as an eleventh hour test of a long range over water flight, and partly to fool the Japanese rather than the Germans. The Germans were already thinking B29 but the Japanese were wondering where the B29 would be deployed, and were aware of the long runways in and around Calcutta. So an elaborate plan was hatched with leaks to give the impression that the B29 had not measured up and would be used as an armed transport for Hump flights. The YB29 reached India on the 6th of April after spending 2 weeks in England.
                    TN

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                    • cnam100
                      Junior Member

                      #11
                      First B-29 in Europe

                      This aircraft certainly visited here (Horsham St Faith), we have photographs of it in our archieve.

                      Think that some of these photographs were in the Mighty Eighth by Roger Freeman and Fields of Little America by Martin Bowman.

                      Always understood that the B-29 only visited USAAF 8th bases at Horsham St Faith and Glatton. Interestingly the B-29 was in standard 8th colour scheme of olive drab.

                      City of Norwich Aviation Museum
                      Horsham St Faith

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                      • cnam100
                        Junior Member

                        #12
                        Checked which B-29 visited Horsham St Faith last night.

                        41-36963 was here in March 1944, the picture we have is also in George Reynolds book on the 458th Bomb Group which was based at Horsham at that time.

                        The USAAF plan was to convert nine B-24 equiped groups to B-29 between June-Sept 1945. These groups would have all been 2nd Air Division units, all based in Norfolk and Suffolk. A training squadron was planned to be based at Boscombe Down. No doubt the runways of the choosen airfields would have need to be longer than for B-24 operations. In February 1945 the plans for UK based B-29 were cancelled.

                        Interestingly, at the time the B-29 was at Horsham St Faith, 1426 (Enemy Aircraft Flight) from Collyweston sent a Ju88, a He111 and a Do217 to Horsham for inspection by 2nd Air Division personell. All part of a deception or an evaluation on how the B-29 might perform in Europe?

                        City of Norwich Aviation Museum

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                        • Merlinmagic
                          Rank 5 Registered User

                          #13
                          Am gagging for pics....don't hold out on me!!

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                          • J Boyle
                            With malice towards none

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cnam100
                            Interestingly the B-29 was in standard 8th colour scheme of olive drab.
                            Many of the early B-29s (including the prototypes) were painted.
                            It wasn't just for the plane(s) that visited the UK.
                            There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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                            • bearoutwest
                              Rank 5 Registered User

                              #15
                              B-29 at Glatton on 11 March 1944, from Key Publishing's Air Enthusiast magazine, Issue #59:
                              Attached Files
                              ...converting fuel to noise.

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                              • Atcham Tower
                                Rank 5 Registered User

                                #16
                                In the unlikely event of English airfields being threatened with serious air attack or even invasion, there was a fallback plan to base 800 B-29s in Northern Ireland, plus B-32s later. The plan was not abandoned until May 1944 and a project to extend many runways to the necessary 9,000 feet was shelved. I have also found in an obscure PRO (sorry, Natl Archives!) file, a reference to a plan to build the B-29 in Britain. There are no details and I have never read anything to substantiate this.

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