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  • CeBro
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    Threadcreep, the Beaufighter is more exciting although I hit my head against many protrusions when I was allowed to take a peak inside. Wonderful aircraft though.

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  • Consul
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    The Valetta was destroyed in Dec 1977 but was replaced by significant elements of a Hastings. Yet another tail dragger with four bladed props. This design was of course a four engined type, but an incomplete airframe was involved. This tangent and consequent speculation about what you saw at Hereford is not helping the Beau thread so I wont comment further.
    Last edited by Consul; 27th August 2019, 20:34.

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  • 1batfastard
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    Hi All,
    Spiteful - I was stationed there in 78 and the Valetta was blown up in 77, but you have given me a new train of thought I'll keep digging....

    Geoff.

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  • Spiteful
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    Could it have been a Vickers Valetta instead of a Varsity? They were tail drag hers, with four blade props. Looks like WD159 was around that area in 1977 at least? http://www.ukserials.com/results.php?serial=WD

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  • Consul
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    I think it more likely that what you saw was Valetta WD159 and not a Beaufighter. This Valetta was once preserved with the collection kept at at RAF Colerne, but was later moved by road to Hereford for further static military use. I can confirm that WD159 was silver overall and, as a twin engined tail-dragger which had four bladed props, this also fits with what you describe.
    Last edited by Consul; 27th August 2019, 18:56.

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  • 1batfastard
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    HI All,
    Consul - When in the 70's where you there ? Where were you allowed to visit on the base ? Like I mentioned maybe during it's journey from service to civvie life it could have been a temporary solution ? The only major problem with this theory is that it would have travelled east to west from Halton, being as there other bases in the locality it makes no sense to store it at Hereford.

    The only other possibility I can come up with is it was on it's way to St Athan ? but if it was then it would have been on a queen mary or dismantled and not sitting on it's undercarriage surely, another possibility and looking more likely being as no info available or sa of yet forthcoming, could it have been a Varsity ? but that needs to be looked at and the Varsity is not a tail dragger.

    I still maintain the aircraft that I saw was an all over Silver Four bladed prop Beaufighter, I know I cannot prove this but like I also mentioned someone else has confirmed this via the RAF Hereford web site.

    Like I mentioned also awaiting responses from Skysport and HARS.

    Geoff.

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  • Consul
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    No Beaufighter was on display at Hereford (Credenhill) when I visited there in the 1970s.
    There was though one once there, amongst other aircraft, but back in 1946 and since long gone! See bottom aircraft in this image:
    https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW001097
    Last edited by Consul; 25th August 2019, 23:51.

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  • 1batfastard
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    Hi All,
    Hooligan - No definitely there at Hereford in 78, I was stationed there doing my training as a cook. I even asked about this a while back on a website that somebody runs for old contact from the base and he could remember it.

    I always wondered if there was a connection between it and the resto info you mentioned, maybe it was there for while and then moved on ? It always stuck in my mind with the four bladed prop and all over silver scheme. I don't know maybe it was not logged as part of it's journey from station to station in it's life before finally leaving the RAF ?

    I have fired off emails to both Skysport Engineering and the current custodians at HARS where it is undergoing restoration or was as of 2018.

    Geoff.

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  • Hooligan
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    Beaufighter at Hereford? Don't think so, do you mean RAF Halton? X7688, was being restored by Tim Moore as G-DINT, project sold to Rob Greinert/Historic Aircraft Restorations in Aus.

    https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/code-number/X7688

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  • 1batfastard
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    Hi All,
    I know I may get some comeback with this thought What about the old scrapping sites or the myriad of Satellite airfield repair stations ? was anything just bulldozed into a very large pit and covered over when abandoning ? Similar to what the yanks did at East Kirkby ?

    I imagine that with all that metal being scraped by all forces never mind the USAAC and RAF/FAA etc.etc. at the end of the war even a few years after, the price of scrap metal would have been very low by the sheer quantity available or was it all just smelted.

    I know, I know what your thinking all fantasy but hey you never know maybe somebody remembers from when they were a kid watching on whatever site as the irks just did what they were told no questions asked ? But I am thinking well outside the box here.

    One more question what happened to the Beaufighter (Four bladed prop) that was on the RAF Hereford drill ground ? it was there in 1978....

    Geoff.

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  • Vintage
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    Originally posted by Throwley View Post
    Spot on! I'd forgotten both that it was a Centaurus and sectioned.
    Yes, and a very good job by all who did it! . However, you know what amazes me?.... there was not a single Merlin, Hercules or Sabre to be found ANYWHERE at Halton by the mid '70s! I have more Merlin parts here in my study than existed at Halton by then! Nor, were there any early gas turbines! To me it is outrageous! There should have been examples of all the RAF stepping-stones of aviation development in those workshops. What was it...No.1 SofTT! Where was the history, the pride or the price in blood. Where is it now?

    V

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  • Anon
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    Interesting article, the one about the smuggler, but oh so sad to see the dismantled remains of the two de-H propellers quietly rusting away in the open in the pic of the wreckage.

    They are just what this project needs, but they'll be beyond saving now.

    Anon.

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  • 8674planes
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    Are the Hercules engines and accessories + bearers due to be shipped to Historical Aircraft Engines in Australia for rebuild or will this work be carried out in the UK?

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  • Throwley
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    Spot on! I'd forgotten both that it was a Centaurus and sectioned.

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  • KurtB
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    Originally posted by Vintage View Post

    It was gone by the mid '70s then! You sure you are not thinking of the motorised and sectioned Centaurus? My goodness, that was a beautiful thing! Anyone know where that Halton Centaurus demo engine is now?

    V
    Yes, well as of 2004 it was in the propulsion school at Cosford. Actually still used as a training aid...

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  • Beaufighter VI
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    You are going back a bit now guys! I worked on the sectioned Centaurus at the end of my time in workshops at Halton, 1959! Where it is now I do not know.

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  • Vintage
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    Originally posted by Throwley View Post
    When I went through as an apprentice in the early '80s, RAF Halton's Old Workshops had a Hercules amongst the ranks of Leonides in the engine bay. I assumed it was from the Beau classroom / G-DINT. If it's still there, with the looming demise of Old Workshops (have they already gone?) I wonder if it will be looking for a home...
    It was gone by the mid '70s then! You sure you are not thinking of the motorised and sectioned Centaurus? My goodness, that was a beautiful thing! Anyone know where that Halton Centaurus demo engine is now?

    V

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  • Throwley
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    When I went through as an apprentice in the early '80s, RAF Halton's Old Workshops had a Hercules amongst the ranks of Leonides in the engine bay. I assumed it was from the Beau classroom / G-DINT. If it's still there, with the looming demise of Old Workshops (have they already gone?) I wonder if it will be looking for a home...

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  • Beaufighter VI
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    Thanks for all the leads guys, keep em' coming.

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  • 1batfastard
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    Hi All,
    Beaufighter VI - Came across this site any help with putting you on track ?

    Scroll down to 13th advert http://spitfirespares.co.uk/propellors.html

    Thinking right outside the box here:- Is it worth chasing this old story ? We know one came to grief but what happened to the others when they broke down as the article mentions ? Scrap yard/Buried in pits out of site being as they were not meant to have them ?

    http://segulamag.com/en/articles/sky-heist/

    More info regarding above (Scroll down to Beau's) :- http://www.machal.org.il/index.php?o...id=790&lang=en

    Geoff.
    Last edited by 1batfastard; 22nd August 2019, 11:37.

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