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  • Hooligan
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Mar 2017
    • 569

    #21
    Glad to hear about the Jupiter, one of those exciting "different" types in the old Observers Books of Aircraft I "inherited" from my older brothers when I was very small.

    Fantastic to see these films, many thanks to the Bellamy family and to you T6flyer.

    The old man knew Viv Bellamy in the late 60s when he'd moved down to Lands End - it's possible I met the great man himself as Dad used to take me the airfield occasionally and my first flights were a trip in an Auster to St Mary's and back. One recollection is the Volmer Sportsman G-BAME which was under construction there either in '69 or '71.

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    • DazDaMan
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 18720

      #22
      Great stuff!

      Interesting to see the Proctuka - I always wondered how that cockpit was reconfigured!
      Daren Cogdon

      Spitfire fanatic

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      • Planemike
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Dec 2007
        • 1810

        #23
        Wow........!!! What a collection......!!! Recognise quite a few of the aircraft and also some of the people in those clips. John Dykes, Owen Hill and of course John Isaacs in particular.
        I was around Hampshire and Eastleigh in particular in 1962 - 64. Sad to see the demise of the 86. Only image I have ever seen of it after it was damaged. Could easily have gone on to fight another day !!! What is the red fuselage with test running engine on the apron outside HAC ??

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        • avion ancien
          Long ago and far away ...
          • Aug 2007
          • 5336

          #24
          I see I paid a vist to St Just in August 1973 when, according to my notes, the Bellamy hangar contained his Hawker Fury replica under construction as well as Isaacs Fury G-ASCM. However it appears that this cannot have been so as all the references to G-BKBB say that it was commissioned by Patrick Lindsay in the eighties. I sincerely hope that I didn't fail to distinguish between a full size and a 7/10 scale replica of a Fury! Can anyone shed any light on this? Oh, and Rapide G-AIYR was offering pleasure flights from there that day.

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          • avion ancien
            Long ago and far away ...
            • Aug 2007
            • 5336

            #25
            Originally posted by Planemike View Post
            What is the red fuselage with test running engine on the apron outside HAC ??
            That mentioned in post #14?

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            • Planemike
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Dec 2007
              • 1810

              #26
              Originally posted by avion ancien View Post

              That mentioned in post #14?
              No...sir !!! The Halcyon was twin engined, two Walter Mikons as I recall. I think the clip I am referring to is around the same place.
              Looking at it again, reckon it could be a Flying Flea (to you AA, un Pou de Ciel !!). Seem to remember an ATC squadron in Sot'on
              were rumored to have one, could be the one. On checking likely to be EBB which is now with Shuttleworth.
              Last edited by Planemike; 21st June 2019, 18:17.

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              • avion ancien
                Long ago and far away ...
                • Aug 2007
                • 5336

                #27
                If I were a pedant ..... then Pou du Ciel!

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                • Hooligan
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 569

                  #28
                  G-AIYR was probably dong joy rides at Lands End/St Just when I was there; I didn't get a ride in it and in Kenya I missed out in a ride in the Rapide John English latterly operated out of East London in South Africa. Tanzanian registered I think it was at the time. Finally got to the sample the breed via the excellent offices of the late Mike Hood in G-AIDL at Biggin in '84.

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                  • Newforest
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 8893

                    #29
                    Originally posted by Planemike View Post

                    No...sir !!! The Halcyon was twin engined, two Walter Mikons as I recall. I think the clip I am referring to is around the same place.
                    Looking at it again, reckon it could be a Flying Flea (to you AA, un Pou de Ciel !!). Seem to remember an ATC squadron in Sot'on
                    were rumored to have one, could be the one. On checking likely to be EBB which is now with Shuttleworth.
                    It would not be EBB. EBB was rescued from an attic in Church St. In Southampton by the ATC and later 'lent' to Shuttleworth (and never returned!).
                    http://www.flightmemory.com/ I have been round the world 11.83 times!

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                    • Planemike
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 1810

                      #30
                      Does not necessarily rule it out being EBB.......??

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                      • Newforest
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 8893

                        #31
                        Originally posted by Planemike View Post
                        Does not necessarily rule it out being EBB.......??
                        I don't know off hand whether EBB ever flew, it was built in 1936 and cancelled in 1946.
                        http://www.flightmemory.com/ I have been round the world 11.83 times!

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                        • longshot
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1676

                          #32
                          Presumably G-ACZP was in the pale blue paint scheme when Mr Bellamy acquired it. The landing and takeoff shot of the Beverley is at Shoreham presumably the airshow visit of 30May1959 https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/391109548881055398/ Click image for larger version

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                          • avion ancien
                            Long ago and far away ...
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 5336

                            #33
                            Originally posted by longshot View Post
                            The landing and takeoff shot of the Beverley is at Shoreham presumably the airshow visit of 30May1959
                            If so it was XB289

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                            • Planemike
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1810

                              #34
                              Originally posted by Newforest View Post

                              I don't know off hand whether EBB ever flew, it was built in 1936 and cancelled in 1946.
                              According to Ord-Hume's book Flying Flea EBB did fly.

                              Checked the aircraft on the film again: it s NOT a Flying Flea. So the mystery remains. What is it??

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                              • avion ancien
                                Long ago and far away ...
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 5336

                                #35
                                A very, very, very long shot - but could it have been one of the Knight Twisters (G-APXZ and G-ARGJ) the completion of which the HAC took on but didn't, it seems, complete?

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                                • Planemike
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Dec 2007
                                  • 1810

                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by avion ancien View Post
                                  A very, very, very long shot - but could it have been one of the Knight Twisters (G-APXZ and G-ARGJ) the completion of which the HAC took on but didn't, it seems, complete?
                                  AA..... I did think of that one too. I can confirm the two Knight Twisters were there in 1962/3. They simply consisted of welded tubular frames, painted. Stood by the entrance to the club house (entrance actually visible in one the film clips). They had apparently come from the USA. No work was ever carried out to my knowledge. Last I heard was "they went to Biggin Hill".

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                                  • bazv
                                    olde rigger
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 5886

                                    #37
                                    The Ground runner with the red fuselage looks very similar to a Mignet HM360 to me
                                    Last edited by bazv; 22nd June 2019, 21:09.

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                                    • Mothminor
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 993

                                      #38
                                      I'd second that - possibly the one that was damaged at Eastleigh in November '56?

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                                      • Hooligan
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Mar 2017
                                        • 569

                                        #39
                                        The Knight Twister fuselages were still supposed to be stored at Biggin in the late 1970s but despite a very thorough nose around the various accessible hangars and sheds in early '77 I certainly never found them.

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                                        • Chitts
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Jan 2009
                                          • 139

                                          #40
                                          http://www.hampshireairfields.co.uk/...lds/xchjp.html

                                          Pictures of the same Flying Flea here, was flown at Christchurch.

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