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  • HaveQuick2
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Nov 2006
    • 115

    Spitfires on carriers?

    I was sent the attached picture from someone via a colleague. The originator says it was probably taken in the Med, around 1943, and he'd like to ID either of the vessels depicted, or any other info that may be available.
    HQ2 out
  • rogerlaredo
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Apr 2011
    • 18

    #2
    I thought I recognised that last Seafire from somewhere. Indeed, I have an Airfix 1:48 model of it on my book shelf. The description from the instructions says "Seafire F.XVII, Seafire ​operated by No. 800 Naval Air Squadron, HMS Triumph and Hal Far, Malta, 1947"
    https://modelingmadness.com/review/a...ts/presf17.htm





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    • iclo
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Feb 2012
      • 50

      #3
      Did some Spitfires beeing launched between Gibraltar and Malta to replace the lost planes ? Without having being modified for carrier operations.

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      • DazDaMan
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Aug 2003
        • 18673

        #4
        Spitfires were flown from carriers to support Malta. Click image for larger version

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        Daren Cogdon

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        • Graham Boak
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Nov 2008
          • 941

          #5
          They did not need modifying for carrier take-offs (not catapult launches). There were also two cases of individual examples landing back on, one on Wasp and one on Indomitable. Not advisable for regular operations.

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          • merlin70
            Tim Clark
            • Mar 2004
            • 1688

            #6
            Is that BR124 (U2) the closest a/c in the last image? Were the temporary codes re-used?
            Last edited by merlin70; 29th May 2019, 21:54.
            Watching the planes fly by...

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            • merlin70
              Tim Clark
              • Mar 2004
              • 1688

              #7
              Watching the planes fly by...

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              • WZ862
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Dec 2012
                • 127

                #8
                Spitfires were flown off carriers in the Med to bring extra aircraft and pilots to Malta. From memory, the flaps were jammed with temporary wooden wedges at 25 degree angle to faciliate take off as the aircraft were fitted with overload tanks. Operation Pedestal was the first and was described by Geoffrey Wellum, a participant flying from HMS Furious, in his book First Light Chapter 15.

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                • Graham Boak
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 941

                  #9
                  The photo is not historical, but a modern warbird. It is a Mk.Vb with the later strengthening strakes over the wheel bay, only the two cannon, and a postwar spinner (and presumably propeller?). The original aircraft was an early Mk.Vc with four cannon and a DH propeller/spinner. The paint scheme is also a little bit too smart for historical accuracy.

                  The number codes were not repeated but were allocated to the specific squadrons on each delivery, thus 1 and 2 for Operation Calendar, 3 and 4 for Operation Bowery. On arrival on Malta the numbers were removed, some of the Malta squadrons allocated their own codes but not always. It isn't clear whether the individual codes were changed or not - probably not if the aircraft stayed in the hands of the delivering squadron but may well have been if passed into the hands of an existing Malta-based unit, already possessing its own aircraft.

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                  • HaveQuick2
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 115

                    #10
                    Thanks for the replies, hopefully that has helped with the original question.
                    HQ2 out

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