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  • hampden98
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Sep 2009
    • 2514

    Royal Navy Historic Flight Stands Down

    Appologies if this has already been reported. Noticed while visiting the site for news of the Sea Vixen.
  • dhfan
    Still cantankerous
    • Jan 2000
    • 2802

    Well, in my opinion it's a disgrace that it's necessary to hand it over to a charity.
    Compared to the untold millions wasted by incompetence and inane specifications, and the overall defence budget, it cost peanuts.


    • Black Knight
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Oct 2003
      • 1879

      I'm not holding my breath for the Sea Vixen, they barely got the money to get the Sea Fury repaired, how long have they been holding out for the FB.11??? Then there's no money to repair the Sea Hawks exhaust system, so she gets sent away for storage. Then will the CAA really allow it to operate??? Then what happened to the 3rd Swordfish???


      • Wyvernfan
        • Oct 2007
        • 5808

        Yes it is a disgrace but they are doing what they can so lets not be too pessimistic.

        I too would love to see the FB.11, Sea Hawk and Sea Vixen flying again - but like everything else in this game it comes down to money.
        Last edited by Wyvernfan; 20th April 2019, 08:05.
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        • Lynx815
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Jun 2008
          • 141

          The 2-seat Sea Fury and Sea Vixen have never been owned by the RNHF.


          • D1566
            Needs retiring.
            • Apr 2006
            • 2109

            Hope the Trust have an effective fund raising team.


            • RetreatingBlade
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Jan 2007
              • 114

              A sad day but it had to happen. Under MAA regulations there is no leeway available for OEM support. You either have it or you don't. Under CAA regs you can at least get a PtF which makes life a little easier.
              If things don't change, they'll stay the way they are.


              • Runway06
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2010
                • 620

                Originally posted by D1566 View Post
                Hope the Trust have an effective fund raising team.
                We need the Norte Dame fund raising team on this one!


                • Lee Howard
                  Roundel checker
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 734

                  Originally posted by Black Knight View Post
                  IThen there's no money to repair the Sea Hawks exhaust system, so she gets sent away for storage.....Then what happened to the 3rd Swordfish???
                  I think you'll find there was nothing wrong with the Sea Hawk's 'exhaust system' at the time she was (rightly) sent for proper storage pending a decision on her future.

                  And 'the 3rd Swordfish' is NF389. Over the years she has provided much needed spares for the other two aircraft and indeed her wings are currently fitted to W5856.

                  There are many positives in the aircraft being transferred to the G-reg under PtF rules. Rather than complain about it and the lack of funding, why not pledge your support and do your bit to keep these unique aircraft flying? Just a thought....
                  The views I express are PURELY my own. Please respect that.


                  • Dave Hadfield
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 91

                    Damned shame, from the across-the-pond point of view.


                    • aeronut 2008
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1562

                      Going to a Trust may not be all bad.
                      The Historic Army Aircraft Flight Trust had to go civvie some time back. Part of the trusts fund raising is via Corporate days which can include flights on a cost share basis. It also helps that the HAAFT dont operate any single seaters, although the Sioux may struggle on hot days, but could we seeing a queue form for trips in the Swordfish?


                      • CADman
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 649

                        A few questions.
                        Have any of the RNHF aircraft appeared on the CAA register ?
                        When they do lets hope the paper work will allow a quick transition for engineering and pilot training and let us continue to see the aircraft flying regularly around the UK.
                        Regarding engineering support for the current RNHF who employs the men and women. Is there a core team of permanent staff, like the BBMF, or do engineers just 'drop in' when their day job allows.
                        As a private 'Trust' will these existing engineers be transferred from the MOD or will a whole new team have to be recruited.
                        Understand that the RNHF have a hangar at Yeovilton. Will this still be available free of charge and in the long term could it be made accessible for public visits.
                        Finally let us hope that the familiar RNHF sales caravan can still be seen out and about at UK airshows, even if the aircraft are not available public exposure and fund raising is still most important.


                        • Credible Sport
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 343

                          The Sea Vixen, G-CVIX is on the register. They received it that way from the donor.
                          Now officially a 'Senior Citizen'


                          • Mothminor
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 974

                            Swordfish W5856 was registered G-BMGC in 1985 while with the Strathallan Collection. Cancelled in 1991.


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