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  • adrian_gray
    Which idiot let HIM in?
    • Jan 2000
    • 2908

    Can anyone ID this aluminium panel, please? (Wellington? Anson?)

    Discovered today on a hill with a known Wellington crash site - though on the other side of the ridge to where I found this. It's definitely aluminium or light alloy, rivetted construction (possibly dural rivets, as some blue corrosion products), and has been up there for a long time - in places it is paper-thin. Traces of a reddish colour on what I presume was the inside side. However I could not find a part number anywhere on it, despite hunting fairly thoroughly. That bothers me as I'd expect an aircraft part that size to have one somewhere, unless it's been hidden by a fold, but I'm at a loss to think of what else it could be. It's a very long way up the hill for anything agricultural.

    That's my size nine walking boot for scale - so maybe 18" across?

    Thanks,

    Adrian
    Last edited by adrian_gray; 12th April 2019, 17:05.
    "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.
  • Ian Hunt
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Oct 2010
    • 217

    #2
    Have you checked with those stripey people? ...

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    • Versuch
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Sep 2010
      • 521

      #3
      The red substance could either be the remains of an asbestos gasket or remains of the dope, part of a control surface perhaps ?

      Cheers Mike

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      • adrian_gray
        Which idiot let HIM in?
        • Jan 2000
        • 2908

        #4
        Originally posted by Ian Hunt View Post
        Have you checked with those stripey people? ...
        You're a bad man, Ian!

        Adrian
        "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.

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        • FarlamAirframes
          Scrap Metal Man
          • Nov 2007
          • 1436

          #5
          The riveting around the Dzus looks like Anson cowling
          Kind Regards,

          Brian

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          • Nige
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Oct 2003
            • 233

            #6
            Originally posted by FarlamAirframes View Post
            The riveting around the Dzus looks like Anson cowling
            Possible? Click image for larger version

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            • adrian_gray
              Which idiot let HIM in?
              • Jan 2000
              • 2908

              #7
              I think the oval cut out is in the worng place as it's fairly much in the centre of the piece I found - though if there are other panels with one, maybe? There was an Anson crash on a peak a simlar distance away - could it be a panel where the aileron cable goes through the wing surface (eg on the header photo to this page? http://silverhawkauthor.com/canadian...iners_721.html ) - I will admit here that my knowledge of Anson wing construcction could be written in big letters on the back of a small stamp!

              Adrian
              Last edited by adrian_gray; 12th April 2019, 17:13.
              "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.

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              • Ian Hunt
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Oct 2010
                • 217

                #8
                Please can I come off the naughty step now, Mr Gray? ...

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                • adrian_gray
                  Which idiot let HIM in?
                  • Jan 2000
                  • 2908

                  #9
                  I think I can find it in myself to forgive you! :-)

                  Adrian
                  "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.

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                  • Anon
                    Mike Davey
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2845

                    #10
                    That looks rather like an ally seat bucket to me. If it is then it must be from the Wellington as the Anson was a different design.

                    Anon.

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                    • Wellington285
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 412

                      #11
                      It might be from the leading edge of the wing between the engines and fuselage of a Wellington. They do have the same access type hole cut but cannot see from other Wellington photos if it was fixed by Dzus not enough detail.
                      Ian

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                      • adrian_gray
                        Which idiot let HIM in?
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 2908

                        #12
                        Hmm, I guess either Brooklands or Cosford would be the place to ask, but that certainly looks possible.

                        Adrian
                        "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.

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                        • CeBro
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2122

                          #13
                          If it has ref 285 on it then it's wellington.

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                          • adrian_gray
                            Which idiot let HIM in?
                            • Jan 2000
                            • 2908

                            #14
                            Unfortunately no sign of a number that I could find - though I can't discount that it could be in a fold, or on one of the more eroded bits. I left it where it was, I guess I could give directions if anyone is really keen...

                            Adrian
                            "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.

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                            • Anon
                              Mike Davey
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2845

                              #15
                              If it is the cut-out that is shown in the pics of the Wellington wing, then I'd say that that's where (one of) the barrage balloon cable cutters were fitted.

                              Anon.

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                              • Whitley_Project
                                If in doubt apply heat..
                                • Jan 2000
                                • 2835

                                #16
                                100% Anson Adrian.

                                Untitled by Elliott Smock, on Flickr

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                                • adrian_gray
                                  Which idiot let HIM in?
                                  • Jan 2000
                                  • 2908

                                  #17
                                  Wow, that could hardly be a better match, thank you, Elliot! I take it that's another cowling panel?

                                  ETA - as you have one to hand, can you show me where the part number would be, please? Thanks!

                                  Adrian
                                  Last edited by adrian_gray; 17th April 2019, 11:24.
                                  "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.

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                                  • Whitley_Project
                                    If in doubt apply heat..
                                    • Jan 2000
                                    • 2835

                                    #18
                                    Hi Adrian - I only grabbed a pic in passing, and I couldnt find a part number either. Yes its a cowling panel. I would be interested to know which Anson this could be from if possible?

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                                    • adrian_gray
                                      Which idiot let HIM in?
                                      • Jan 2000
                                      • 2908

                                      #19
                                      Elliott, I've PM'ed you - as one of the new forum features seems to be non-arriving PMs let me know if you don't hear anything, and I'll just post here.

                                      Adrian
                                      "Snow clearing equipment has been found under snowdrift" - message sent from RNAS Hatston, Orkney, 1944.

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