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  • Fleet16b
    Fleet Pilot
    • Aug 2006
    • 267

    Spit / Hurri data plates

    With all the dataplate restorations that take place these days , I am curious, what is a data plate for a Spitfire or a Hurricane worth in todays market ?
  • Anon
    Mike Davey
    • Jan 2008
    • 2862

    #2
    Hurricane ones, without any war history, not a lot, apparently.

    Anon.

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    • Junk Collector
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Aug 2006
      • 1463

      #3
      depends on the Mark with Spitfires, there are several plates on a Spitfire but a mk9 with war history in the tens of thousands a few years ago I know one sold for 19k, I heard it went back up for 40k but that was rumour
      Officially now a pensioner

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      • Wingnut
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 133

        #4
        As I understand it, a dataplate restoration is not really dependent on any said dataplate. What you need is a substantial amount of identifiable parts from a known Spitfire wreakage. With this you can approach the CAA and be approved the ownership of said Spitfire ID and start restoring/"building" your spitfire. So, if the only thing you have is a dataplate, you might have a problem later on, if someone turns up with the actual wreakage with "your" Spitfire ID stamped all over it.

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        • Worcs Aviation
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Mar 2009
          • 298

          #5
          I was told by someone who has more experience than me, that you DO need the Hurri or Spit data plate, also you need ALL of the wreckage that came from the crash site, I don't know how 'substantial' it has to be though.
          So if it has been dispersed around various parties or museums they will not issue a CAA licence which would make it possible to turn a pile of parts into a flying aircraft registered and carrying the serial number of that particular aircraft (that then has some value, if you can find the other 2 Million to build it) You can use any serial number of an aircraft on a non flying aircraft project (if it doesn't already exist) if you have major parts but no plate, but this and other projects where a serial number with history is added, and used, is only to 'represent' that aircraft, or a sort of replica of it. Not an expert on it really myself

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          • windhover
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Jan 2014
            • 326

            #6
            Which is why our old lady is, and always will be a museum exhibit (Not to mention the seven or possibly, even eight figure sum needed to get daylight under her wheels.)

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            • Fournier Boy
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Mar 2007
              • 1039

              #7
              Plus dont forget that the wreckage of even licensed recoveries remain the property of U.K. MOD unless an application is made to transfer ownership. So even recoveries from years ago would be a real pitfall of ownership issues in the future. Best to get that sorted long before any money changes hands on a rebuild.

              FB

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              • Fleet16b
                Fleet Pilot
                • Aug 2006
                • 267

                #8
                The data plate I have is for a CCF airframe so the UK MOD have no jurisdiction

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                • Fournier Boy
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1039

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fleet16b View Post
                  The data plate I have is for a CCF airframe so the UK MOD have no jurisdiction
                  Who built it is irrelevant to jurisdiction of oversight, it comes down to which service it served with.

                  For example, if your CCF built aircraft was on charge with the RAF when it crashed, then you would need a formal release from the U.K. MOD. They will require a full inventory of parts recovered and the information must tie up with their records for them to confirm.

                  The CAA have got a LOT stricter in the requirements to register projects recently to stop dataplate rebuilds. Jump through those hoops and you might have something. But value really depends on history, amount of material from that aircraft you have and if it has been released by the authority and accepted for a civilian registration.

                  but consider there is a hurricane currently for sale for around 1m less than it would cost to carry out a dataplate restoration, whoever would be in the market for a hurricane needs to be prepared to go in to lose 7 figures of currency!

                  FB

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                  • Dave Hadfield
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 102

                    #10
                    Spits didn't have data plates.

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                    • Worcs Aviation
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 298

                      #11
                      I have heard that the former group members up north somewhere that are holding several Hurricane data plates recovered from scrapped aiframes offered them to Hawker Restorations for sale hoping for thousands. They are very late aircraft with no history or parts, they were turned down as Hawker Restorations wouldn't even give them 500 ! Can't be 100% its all true of course.

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                      • Fournier Boy
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1039

                        #12
                        Sounds quite possible. If there isnt enough there to register, why would a company that wants projects for rebuild want a plate?

                        FB

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                        • coldkiwi1
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 59

                          #13
                          P40 data plates change hands for around USD 2500, depending on condition and history.

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                          • avion ancien
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 5286

                            #14
                            How to make a small fortune - start with a large fortune, buy a Hurricane constructor's plate and wreckage, pay someone to construct a flying aeroplane from that and then sell the finished item!

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                            • Mark12
                              MEANS MOTIVE OPPORTUNITY
                              • Jan 2000
                              • 10850

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dave Hadfield View Post
                              Spits didn't have data plates.
                              Dave. RHS of the cockpit, just below the datum longeron. All Spitfires and Seafires have data plates.

                              Mark
                              "...the story had been forensically examined and was deeply impressive. I knew that the whole story was a load of myth and baloney"

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                              • Worcs Aviation
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 298

                                #16
                                So to answer the original question, a data plate plate on its own is worth as much as someone is willing to pay you for it

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                                • Dakotac47
                                  Rank 2 Registered User
                                  • Jan 2019
                                  • 4

                                  #17
                                  Data plates are not worth as much now as they used to be. To make a flyable Spitfire or Hurricane now, you need a higher percentage of that aircraft then you once could. If you just had a data plate with no parts from that exact original airframe, you could make a Spitfire but it would have to be classed as a different type and not one build in the 40s.

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                                  • QldSpitty
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 2604

                                    #18
                                    Back in the old days just a spit panel or part with a serial number pencil or painted on.
                                    "If the C.O. ask's you to be Tail End Charlie...just shoot him!!!....A Piece of Cake.
                                    http://spitfirea58-27.blogspot.com.au/

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