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  • 1batfastard
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jan 2013
    • 3360

    Never mind how low what about close can you go.......

    Hi All,
    Having mooch on't interweb thingy as you do and came across this old January 27/01 post via http://www.facebook.com/planeresurrection/ ................

    Plane resurrection has Captioned it as :- One wrong move.....

    https://i.giphy.com/media/ebFG4jcnC1Ny8/giphy.mp4

    Geoff.
    Last edited by 1batfastard; 16th February 2019, 18:06.
  • Old Towzer
    Rank 3 Registered User
    • Jun 2018
    • 46

    #2
    B****Y HELL!!!! As you say 'one wrong move' and they would just be angels

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    • GliderSpit
      Flying Dutchman
      • Aug 2006
      • 1126

      #3
      No room for error at all.
      Possunt quia posse videntur (They can because they think they can; motto RAF 19 Squadron)

      tracesofwar.com/

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      • RAFRochford
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 906

        #4
        That's actually so close, that it's scary!

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        • George
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Feb 2014
          • 58

          #5
          Crazy. I remember servicing a plane during the early 80's and the owner did a stunt with it on the first flight over the airfield. It 'went in' to a field over the road.
          A terrible tragedy for him and the family. We stressed and wondered for weeks afterwards if it was something we got wrong or missed during its overhaul.
          The investigation found that it was pilot error, but the fallout was horrible for everyone. Better to fly safe - for everyone's sake in my opinion.

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          • Beermat
            1 Registered Rank Loser
            • Oct 2009
            • 3616

            #6
            That's a classic example of people thinking they are being very clever when in fact they are being stupid. It may be officially sanctioned stupid, but it's still stupid. It does raise the interesting question about who, if anyone, is to blame when it goes wrong. Is there such a thing as 'institutionalised negligence'?

            I would tell myself to lighten up if it wasn't for another thread raising the accident rate among that team - the job has a 10 percent fatality rate. Reading the causes it would appear that a high proportion of fatalities were from testosterone overdose.
            Last edited by Beermat; 17th February 2019, 16:18.
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            It's all good. Probably.

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            • trumper
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2003
              • 6668

              #7
              Claustrophobic at best.It's all very well whilst everything is going to plan BUT a freak gust of wind, a bird strike and ,well.

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              • Ian Hunt
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Oct 2010
                • 219

                #8
                As above. Hit a bit of turbulence and that would get VERY messy!

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                • scotavia
                  scotavia
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2748

                  #9
                  For background reading...the why and how...https://www.quora.com/How-do-pilots-...such-precision

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                  • Lingo Dog
                    Rank 3 Registered User
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 88

                    #10
                    I NEVER enjoyed formation flying. I found it to be exhausting. Same way, same day is good enough for me!

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                    • DragonRapide
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1005

                      #11
                      I'm just an armchair aviator, and I don't doubt their skills and experience, but what the heck is the point of taking risks like that? I wouldn't drive my car that close to anybody else for fear of bumps in the road etc!
                      Listening out for something interesting approaching...

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                      • J Boyle
                        With malice towards none
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 9727

                        #12
                        Are we sure the closeness observed was intended and not due to either error or weather?

                        I can't believe the group normally flies that close. I know the Thunderbirds have strict parameters for their performances. Part of the show is to make it look closer than they are.

                        I think all since activities are foolish...Red Arrows and civil teams included.
                        Really, are lives worth a bit of a vicarious thrill for largely ignorant punters?


                        Let's face it, we live in a very risk adverse world, I can't imagine these things being sanctioned much longer. Especially if the Shoreham crash criminalizes what would have been seen as "just one of those things" not all that long ago.

                        Last edited by J Boyle; 19th February 2019, 00:41.
                        There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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                        • Hooligan
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 428

                          #13
                          Thunderbirds had a mild midair last year as I recall...

                          It's like many of the low flying vids - a pass at 100 or even 50 feet is one thing but some of them are way too low and stupidly close to those on the ground, even allowing for foreshortening by the lens used.

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                          • scotavia
                            scotavia
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 2748

                            #14
                            If you read my linked article you will find that the close formation is intended and part of the boasting mindset.

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                            • Hooligan
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 428

                              #15
                              Sadly the Indian Air Force Hawk formation team have had a mid-air today. One dead, two ejected safely.

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                              • ericmunk
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1721

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Hooligan View Post
                                Sadly the Indian Air Force Hawk formation team have had a mid-air today. One dead, two ejected safely.
                                During a display the aircraft flying inverted in mirror formation above the other appeared to descend into the lower aircraft's tail (or the lower one climbed, or both), causing that the lower to nose up into the inverted upper aircraft. Too close indeed.

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                                • me109g4
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • May 2009
                                  • 553

                                  #17
                                  Having spoken to some of these guys over the yrs. the requirement for this is "wingtip to canopy spacing is 38"". and they do it almost every day at airshows and training.

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