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  • George
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Feb 2014
    • 52

    Scuttled Flying Boats

    I noted that a Short Sunderland Mk1 T9049 was scuttled in Lock Ryan in 1946.

    See: https://canmore.org.uk/site/300318/s...-wig-loch-ryan

    It just makes me wonder how many other Sunderland's lie at the bottom of Locks, Lakes etc up and around the UK.
    I tried the 'Search' on this aviation forum but it doesn't work on my PC!
    Apologies if it's been covered before.
  • scotavia
    scotavia
    • Nov 2005
    • 2683

    #2
    Salvage took place in many of the sheltered sites in regards to flying boats despite listings of losses. In the case of two off Invergordon they were demolished by explosives as they were obstructing a shipping channel. The sites of large ships and aircraft inland and inshore have been found and picked over.Well thats my view from looking at reports over the last 40 years. https://blogs.wessexarch.co.uk/aircr...t-the-project/

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    • CeBro
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Sep 2009
      • 2107

      #3
      I remember seeing some underwater footage of a complete Sunderland in Norway some years ago in the German magazine FLugzeug Classic. After removal of useful parts it was sunk and very complete.
      Cees

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      • scotavia
        scotavia
        • Nov 2005
        • 2683

        #4
        This one perhaps, I have no idea of location but there are above water views....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7MQ2vutw4U and a HE115 which is in Norway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTtJIbk3-Xc

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        • George
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Feb 2014
          • 52

          #5
          Thanks Gents,
          Thats really interesting. The Sunderland in the Video looks in remarkable condition.
          I suspect that there are many more around the Globe in similar condition.
          Thanks for posting.

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          • Whitley_Project
            If in doubt apply heat..
            • Jan 2000
            • 2822

            #6
            Superb Sunderland video Scotavia. The company is based in Norway so the Sunderland must be nearby. I think it must have been scuttled as the working platforms are extended and the engines were removed...
            Last edited by Whitley_Project; 5th February 2019, 03:26.

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            • Michel Lemieux
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2004
              • 77

              #7
              Could it not be a Sunderland? Looks like this one

              http://www.aussieairliners.org/short...bre/vhbre.html

              or

              http://traveloscopy.com/CMS/content/view/1172/28/

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              • pogno
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Dec 2005
                • 1162

                #8
                Michel
                I think clues in the video suggest it is a Sunderland, five port hole windows and flat panels for flight deck glazing are visible, Sandringham's had curved flight deck screens and four port holes, it also appears to have a glazed tail turret, Sandringhams had a streamlined fairing where the turret had been.


                Richard
                "Where are you from?"
                "America" Somebody laughed politely.

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                • Ndege
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 27

                  #9
                  From the Old Man's RAF log book; He was the WOM on Sunderland PP126, which they ferried from Koggala Creek to Wig bay. Departed Koggala 29/10/46, arrived Wig bay 06/11/46. On deplaning, he said it was towed out and scuttled......

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                  • richw_82
                    White Knuckle Airlines
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1669

                    #10
                    I believe the Sunderland in the video by Blueye Robotics is EJ138 near Trondheim. It has featured in a couple of other videos by ROV's and on a couple of wreck dive sites.

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                    • Whitley_Project
                      If in doubt apply heat..
                      • Jan 2000
                      • 2822

                      #11
                      That would fit as I had it down as a mk III or V

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                      • Stirling
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 8

                        #12
                        I see the old bv222 thread mentions a bv222 scuttled not far from trondheim (supposedly near monks island which happens to briefly be in shot on the blue eye robotics film.. and that halifax in a nearby fjord IIRC. plenty to explore round Trondheim with those drones!

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                        • stuartm
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 16

                          #13
                          "In August 1945 large contracts were cancelled, the last Sunderland coming from Belfast in June 1946, where as at Dumbarton, some dozens of new boats were packed with new military equipment and deliberately sunk shortly after the end of the war"


                          I have no idea where these boats were sunk, but I am assuming somewhere in the River Clyde area.


                          Stuart

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                          • TonyT
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 8897

                            #14
                            https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/di...lane-1-1854971

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                            • Shorty01
                              Short Member
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 723

                              #15
                              Many years ago I read a report of aircraft hulks to be found in Bigbury Bay, Devon. This was on the old Divernet website. Not sure if anything is there. I would be interested to find out.
                              It's the one you don't see that gets you (usually)...

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                              • Shorty01
                                Short Member
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 723

                                #16
                                Here we go. Not the original site but you get the idea.

                                http://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/Ga...resourceID=104
                                It's the one you don't see that gets you (usually)...

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                                • TonyT
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 8897

                                  #17
                                  A pilot as we were flying in a Puma from macrahanish past bass rock mentioned some were scuttled near there, whether true or not I do not know.

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                                  • paul1867
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Nov 2012
                                    • 1425

                                    #18
                                    George thank you for introducing me to the excellent resource that is canmore.org. Many, many hours of late night/early morning browsing there.
                                    I had just got round to seeing the glass as half full instead of half empty, when some sod came and drank it......

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