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  • Propstrike
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 4010

    #61
    Ok film fans. Name the movie , featuring the following dialogue..


    '' I'm in range.
    Target's coming up.
    Just hold them off for a few seconds.
    Close up formation
    Almost there.
    You'd better let her loose
    Almost there. I can't hold them.
    Aah! It's away! It's a hit!
    Negative, negative. It didn't go in. It just impacted on the surface
    Red Leader, we're right above you.
    Turn to.05.
    We'll cover for you. Stay there
    I just lost my starboard engine
    Get set up for your attack run. ''
    Last edited by Propstrike; 10th December 2018, 23:02.

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    • TwinOtter23
      NAM volunteer-Plugmeister
      • Jan 2006
      • 7778

      #62
      Whilst not a Star Wars geek, my understanding was that part of the original Lucas pitch included footage from both the Dambusters & 633 Squadron, with the Death Star attack in the first film replicating the Mosquito attack on the rock overhanging the heavy water plant at the end of the fjord, hence my previous comment. That said I'm happy to be corrected!!
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      • SADSACK
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jan 2000
        • 3487

        #63
        633 was the movie that made George Lucas sit up and decide what he wanted to do when he grew up... he has always praised it.
        pb::

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        • Tony C
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • May 2003
          • 386

          #64
          DazDaMan wrote
          But some of the dialogue from Star Wars is loosely based on that from The Dam Busters.
          Not sure I can remember Richard Todd ever saying "Why, you stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf herder!"
          Tony

          ...and pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in Space cos there's bugg*r all down here on Earth!

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          • DazDaMan
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Aug 2003
            • 18720

            #65
            Ah, that was in the director's cut!
            Daren Cogdon

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            • CONCORDE
              Rank 3 Registered User
              • Mar 2018
              • 15

              #66
              Will they be filming at Scampton i wonder. I think personally if going to start removing bits here & bits their from the new film, then just keep with the original!!

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              • Propstrike
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Mar 2004
                • 4010

                #67
                Meaning what ? If PJ does not slavishly make a frame- for- frame reproduction of the original film, he should not bother at all ?

                It is a story, interpreted in 1955 by Michael Anderson, and now P. Jackson wants to film his take on it, with his own interpretation.

                Surely the point of any creative pursuit is that it is a personal expression of one's own sentiments, not just aping something that came before.

                Visually, there is no good reason to shoot at Scampton, as it does not look like a 1940 grass airfield. Hemswell was used in 1955.

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                • otis
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 213

                  #68
                  A link reminding that the original film was far from perfect. That said, it's a film and so for entertainment. It would be nice to have another aviation based film.
                  Michael Anderson’s 1955 dramatisation of the 1943 RAF mission to bomb German dams is fairly true to life and bounces along entertainingly

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                  • Trolly Aux
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • May 2006
                    • 3860

                    #69
                    A lot of Upkeep was still secret when they filmed the Dambusters so hard to be accurate
                    SMOKE SMOKE GO!
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                    • Junk Collector
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1465

                      #70
                      I just hope with this build up, it isn’t a let down like Dunkirk was
                      Officially now a pensioner

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                      • Moggy C
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 20534

                        #71
                        I'd suggest the biggest problem will be that several generations believe the 1955 film is a documentary, a dramatisation of what happened, rather than an entertainment and 'feel good' post-war movie which is based loosely around the Chastise operation. If the new film seems in any way different from the old it will be called lacking in authenticity rather than a different take on producing some two hours of entertainment for a 21st Century audience.

                        Moggy.
                        "What you must remember" Flip said "is that nine-tenths of Cattermole's charm lies beneath the surface." Many agreed.

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                        • otis
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 213

                          #72
                          I sympathize with the dissapointment over Dunkirk. I thought the aerial scenes were good. I thought the soldiers story was a let down, as if they tried to do something unexpected with that. Hopefully with Dambusters, the story of what happened is more fixed. It would be nice to not just have Wallis and Gibson as the key elements. Perhaps have Gibson's bomber-aimer Fred Spafford as a third star. Lower ranks, not a toff or a Brit. See more of the issues affecting the crew and perhaps someone ordinary people could connect with?

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                          • Junk Collector
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1465

                            #73
                            I know many were in raptures about the Spitfire flying sequences in Dunkirk but as a film I think it fell short of telling the story properly. The old version with John Mills is I think better on that point.

                            I imagine there is probably more known about the raid since the original film was made and I hope it comes good, and please not like Pearl Harbour
                            Last edited by Junk Collector; 15th December 2018, 15:05.
                            Officially now a pensioner

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                            • J Boyle
                              With malice towards none
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 9812

                              #74
                              To expand on Moggy's comment about people thinking the first film was 100% accurate...

                              The film, more so than the mission itself, has become a defining image of the war, any deviation from the established canon will be looked at with suspicion, if not outright hostility. Witness the period outcry from "A Piece of Cake" .

                              In other words...and to quote another film...
                              "When the legend becomes the fact, print the legend".
                              Last edited by J Boyle; 16th December 2018, 17:55.
                              There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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                              • DazDaMan
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 18720

                                #75
                                Are we getting a TV series instead??

                                https://worldwarwings.com/after-10-y...YkStYPwqaXzyc0
                                Daren Cogdon

                                Spitfire fanatic

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                                • QldSpitty
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Apr 2006
                                  • 2628

                                  #76
                                  That could work..617 squadron did a fair bit more than just attack the dams.
                                  "If the C.O. ask's you to be Tail End Charlie...just shoot him!!!....A Piece of Cake.
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                                  • scotavia
                                    scotavia
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 2838

                                    #77
                                    The idea of a series allows for more drama regarding personalities,it is a tricky challenge once you move away from documentary style.What ever is created it will always annoy someone.

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                                    • Tony C
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 386

                                      #78
                                      ...and could a TV series be called "Enemy Coast Ahead"?
                                      Tony

                                      ...and pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in Space cos there's bugg*r all down here on Earth!

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                                      • dairwin
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jan 2008
                                        • 325

                                        #79
                                        Original film on Ch4 now. Announcer warns viewers that 'language of the era some may find offensive'.

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                                        • J Boyle
                                          With malice towards none
                                          • Oct 2004
                                          • 9812

                                          #80
                                          My tongue in cheek comment (where I joked that in the first draft of Star Wars, Chewbacca was a black lab) made in reference to posts 60-65 (comparing the Dam Busters to Star Wars) seems to have mysteriously vanished...
                                          Last edited by J Boyle; 31st December 2018, 18:49.
                                          There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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