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  • DH82EH
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jan 2013
    • 514

    #41
    What the flight Heritage and Combat Air Museum does, is call Steve Hinton for most of their first flights!
    I wouldn't think the Stuka is particularly hard to fly. An experienced warbird pilot would do as you suggest.
    Read the notes, study the cockpit and learn where everything is, do some engine runs then go fly.

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    • Pulsar-xp
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Mar 2012
      • 161

      #42
      As mentioned before, the Stuka was a very stable aircraft with an excellent take off and landing behaviour. Of course, it wasnt a fighter. So Steve Hinton will be a little bit bored when he will fly the JU 87 for the first time within the next three years. If you are interested in the flying characteristics of german aircraft of the 2nd. WW, just read the book, which was issued by Eric Brown. He flew most of the german aircraft during and after the war.It is very interesting, how he judged about the characteristics of these aircraft. Especially his words about the 262 were very surprising. Before I read his book, I thought the P51 was the best fighter aircraft of the 2nd. WW.

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      • Mustang51
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Sep 2008
        • 268

        #43
        This, the CR.42 on show and the new NZ Mosquito are certainly the best warbird news pieces of the year IMHO. As stated, if it is displayed with the Jericho Trumpet it shall be outstanding. I intend to drop in on the trip from the Antipodes to Legends next year to see progress on this rare machine and if it is made public, at the first flight. Wonderful news !!!

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        • RAFRochford
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 906

          #44
          All past and present restoration projects make me happy, but for me, this is project of the decade. Never thought I would see a Ju-87 in the air. Exciting times! Is there a Bf-110 in the pipeline?

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          • trumper
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Aug 2003
            • 6673

            #45
            ^^^^^^^^^^ That would be something i would love to see and hear.

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            • Jaguar34
              Rank 2 Registered User
              • Nov 2018
              • 4

              #46
              With regard running the ME410, FW190 etc at St Athan during the late 80s and early 90s, the Stuka had long gone to Hendon by then. I remember seeing it on a low loader travelling out of Wales on the Severn Bridge in 1977? I read somewhere that it was run at St Athan in the late 60s for consideration for the BofB film, the quote was that the engine was "weak". Should be some photographs out there?

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              • Shoggz
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2015
                • 5

                #47
                My dad was stationed at St Athan in the early 70s and was friendly with Ken Hurst who curated the amazing storage facility, so many a Sunday morning was spent sat in the cockpit of the Ju87 and all the rest. Great memories

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                • K5054NZ
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • May 2008
                  • 1125

                  #48
                  I truly am sorry for folks without Facebook access as I'm not sure how to share this otherwise, but FHCAM has put up a brief clip with Jason Muszala and the Stuka getting painted into North Africa theatre colours: https://www.facebook.com/flyingherit...type=2&theater
                  "those who know keep quiet, and those who don't are frowned upon for asking." - snafu

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                  • Versuch
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 524

                    #49
                    Thanks for that !

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                    • K5054NZ
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • May 2008
                      • 1125

                      #50
                      And a photo from the FHCAM Twitter feed:
                      Untitled by Zac Yates, on Flickr
                      "those who know keep quiet, and those who don't are frowned upon for asking." - snafu

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                      • DazDaMan
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 18673

                        #51
                        This is gonna be so awesome when finished.
                        Daren Cogdon

                        Spitfire fanatic

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                        • jeepman
                          infrequent poster now
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1969

                          #52
                          Wonder if they are going to reproduce one of the two Snake Stukas.......cue debate about the colours of the snake if thats the case and whether it was painted on both sides of the airframe
                          JM

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                          • Melvyn Hiscock
                            who are you?!
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 2839

                            #53
                            The Hendon Ssuka was nearly used in the BoB film. Viv Bellamy started it and it started on the third pull. That was in 1967-ish, perhaps twenty years before the engines were run at St Athan. A different era.

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                            • Seafuryfan
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Jan 2000
                              • 2464

                              #54
                              This Stuka was originally factory painted in a desert finish, then repainted for the Soviet Front. What I think we see here is FHCAMs meticulous attention to detail in reproducing all layers of paint, as originally applied. The Jericho Trumpet will not be fitted as it was not for the Soviet Front. Source: FHCAM via FB.

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                              • K5054NZ
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • May 2008
                                • 1125

                                #55
                                I had heard the overpainted idea, that's great. The lack of siren, less so. It makes sense from an accuracy standpoint but is deeply disappointing to learn.
                                "those who know keep quiet, and those who don't are frowned upon for asking." - snafu

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                                • J Boyle
                                  With malice towards none
                                  • Oct 2004
                                  • 9727

                                  #56
                                  They probably don't want noise complaints...
                                  There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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                                  • QldSpitty
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 2580

                                    #57
                                    Of course, it wasnt a fighter. So Steve Hinton will be a little bit bored when he will fly the JU 87 for the first time within the next three years.
                                    Unless you get it in a tail chase with 16 Spitfires
                                    "If the C.O. ask's you to be Tail End Charlie...just shoot him!!!....A Piece of Cake.
                                    http://spitfirea58-27.blogspot.com.au/

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                                    • J Boyle
                                      With malice towards none
                                      • Oct 2004
                                      • 9727

                                      #58
                                      I wonder if there is anyone still alive with Stuka time?
                                      There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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                                      • Pulsar-xp
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 161

                                        #59
                                        Yes, there are some. My former math teacher, who is still alive, shared some of his memories many years ago. But anyway, this will not help anybody. If you ask a guy in his 90s about his experiences with a special aircraft, you will be surprised, what he is talking about. In case of the Stuka, I think there will be no bad surprises. If you read the report of Mr. Brown, it will be a very stable and easy to fly aircraft. As long there is nobody behind you, who wants to kill you, it will be a pleasure to fly her. The biggest question will be the reliability of the Jumo.

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                                        • Vintage
                                          Rank 3 Registered User
                                          • Aug 2018
                                          • 28

                                          #60
                                          The Jumo 211 should not be a reliability issue. It was a workhorse engine for the Luftwaffe and versions powered the Ju87, Ju88, and most He111 throughout the war. However, it does have some different detail engineering to most other V12's. Even compared to the DB601/605, I would say the Jumo is a more complicated engine. Even the fully automatic oil operated (motor) propeller pitch system is virtually extinct today. I am not aware of any 211 that is run? I guess that whoever is doing this motor / propeller is pretty sharp. I wish them the best with this.

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