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  • Snapper
    "The goatboy done good."
    • Jan 2000
    • 5622

    Captain Cuthbert Orde and his portraits

    Back in the days of the Battle of Britain, war artist Cuthbert Orde was commisioned by the Air Ministry (specifically by Harald Peake, the coloured oil painting here) to draw the heroes of Fighter Command. He actually visited 609 more than once - as can be seen by some of the later pilots. Here are the majority of known sketches of sometime 609 members made by him, including an oil of Roland Beamont (that should be in colour) and an additional picture of 'Pip' Barran drawn by Dougie Andrews, a Squadron Auxiliary, postwar. It also includes 3 groundcrew.
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  • Snapper
    "The goatboy done good."
    • Jan 2000
    • 5622

    #2
    In order, they should be:

    Harald Peake
    Noel Aggy Le Chevalier Agazarian
    Michael Appleby
    John Joe Atkinson DFC
    Phillip Pip Barran
    Roland Bee Beamont DSO* DFC*
    John Bishop Bisdee DFC
    David Crook DFC
    Horace George Darley DSO
    Idwal Davies DFC
    Charles Detal DFC
    John Scruffy / Dogs Dundas DFC*
    George Moose Evans
    Lodewijck-Emmanuel Manu Geerts DFC
    Frank Howell DFC*
    Raymond Cheval Lallemand DFC*
    Peter Raw DFC
    Paul Richey DFC*
    S/Ldr Michael Robbie Robinson DSO DFC
    Lawrence Pinkie Stark DFC* AFC
    Jonathan 'Johnny' Wells DFC
    Frank Ziggy Ziegler (the IO)
    John Dundas (again)
    (2 erks, who I can't ID right now)
    Alan Rabbidge (F/Sgt)
    Alfred 'Keith/Skeets' Ogilvie.
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    • Snapper
      "The goatboy done good."
      • Jan 2000
      • 5622

      #3
      Last 4. I gather Geoff Stevens was drawn too. He was with 609 for a while in early 1943, having flown Hurri's in the Battle of Britain.
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      • Snapper
        "The goatboy done good."
        • Jan 2000
        • 5622

        #4
        Not in order then. Oh well.
        Some of my best friends are imaginary

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        • Dan Johnson
          Wannabe Yank in the RAF
          • Mar 2003
          • 997

          #5
          Something really powerful about those portraits. Thanks for posting them

          Dan

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          • Snapper
            "The goatboy done good."
            • Jan 2000
            • 5622

            #6
            There are a couple of books with Orde's in - I have one and have seen one - but I would love to see someone produce one with them all in. I think they have a real timeless quality about them.

            Missed these three.
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            • Dan Johnson
              Wannabe Yank in the RAF
              • Mar 2003
              • 997

              #7
              Most definately. It makes them bigger then life in some way. Thanks for posting the additional images.

              I know I've seen some he did of some RAAF pilots in the Far East too but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw them.

              Dan

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              • mmitch
                Member
                • Mar 2003
                • 1753

                #8
                A few years ago the RAF Museum had an exhibition of his drawings in their gallery. Four spellbinding walls and I was walking round on my own.
                mmitch.

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                • Guzzineil
                  Trainee Spitfire Polisher
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1032

                  #9
                  someone selling a set...

                  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...529713163&rd=1

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                  • hagedorn
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1

                    #10
                    Squadron Leader A V ("GUS") GOWERS - ORDE portait

                    As his nephew, I have the original portrait of "Gus" Gowers - and as with all the others on this site it is a powerful image. If anyone does want to reproduce it for a collection they'd be most welcome!



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                    • PaulR
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 435

                      #11
                      It's a quiet Sunday morning and gazing at those images elicits a powerful feeling of heroes all. What a way to wake up, much better than a cup of coffee! Thanks for those.

                      And that ebay item has been withdrawn, and I was going to bid as I want one of those just as a reminder of the men who fought for our freedom so bravely.

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                      • Andy Mac
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 280

                        #12
                        This post really stopped me in my tracks this Sunday morning. Those serene and steady young faces gaze quite calmly out at you. Thanks for this nice post Snapper

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                        • *Zwitter*
                          Intentionally Blank
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 522

                          #13
                          they just seem so real...
                          10. Go in quickly - Punch hard - Get out!

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                          • northeagle
                            http://norav.50megs.com
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 244

                            #14
                            Very nice posting. I have a small book: 'Some Of The Few', John P.M. Reid, 25 portraits in there. Cost me all of five bob back in 1964.

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                            • aprilryan
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1

                              #15
                              Orde Drawings

                              Alan Rabbidge was my Father. Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the original

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                              • K225
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 185

                                #16
                                Keith "Skeets" Ogilivie

                                With the Battle of Britian ceremonies coming up this weekend I apologize for bringing up this old thread but the image of "Skeet's" made me think of my father.
                                My father flew aircrew with "Skeets" after the war so have heard some amazing stories "tall or not" of their flying escapades. Including lining up to land a Dak on the aircraft carrier HMCS Magnificent and flying the rail lines of the North Shore and Labrador Railroad low enough to give the engineer of a steam engine quite a start.
                                Interestingly enough Skeet's son also Keith was a friend of Mike Potter of Vintage Wings Canada when he was flying gliders in the early 70's. Check out the story Gliders, Spitfires, and Golf on the VWoC site: http://www.vintagewings.ca/page?s=63&lang=en-CA

                                From Pat McAdam's book Unbelievable Canadian War Stories

                                "Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) Spitfire pilot Keith 'Skeets' Ogilvie waited shivering in the cold and dark of a March night in 1944 to make his bid for freedom from Stalag Luft 111 in Sagan, 6 kilometres southeast of Berlin.

                                Snow still crusted the ground, and the temperature was below freezing. The pilot's nerves were on edge as he watched the prisoners ahead of him shuffle through the tunnel, code-named "Harry", one of three escape tunnels designed by Canadian Flight Lieutenant Wally Floody. The prisoners passed in front of Skeets... 71, 72, 73... He remembered that Floody had been unexpectedly transferred to another camp the previous night, and his thoughts drifted for a moment...74, 75...

                                Number 75! It was his turn! He crouched down and inched his way slowly through the dark, dank tunnel, trying desperately to control his breathing. Empty jam tins had been telescoped together and periodically positioned along the tunnel to make ventilation pipes. As he emerged from the tunnel, a shout stopped him cold. The German guards had seen the steam rising from the escape hole outside the wire. Gunfire shattered the night. In a sudden moment, Skeets's hopes and dreams were dashed.

                                The flying ace was recaptured almost immediately, as were 71 of the 75 escapees. Soon after, 50 of the would-be escapees were executed by firing squad in nearby woods. Skeets Ogilvie's name was not on that list of 50, and he went through life wondering why he had been spared.

                                Keith 'Skeets" Ogilvie was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC). After the war, he stayed in the RCAF and served as a squadron leader in Trenton, Centralia, Rockcliffe, and Downsview. He retired in April 1996 and passed away May 6, 1998."

                                My dad passed away Sept. 11, 2005 sure wish I had the chance to hear some more stories.
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                                "I always wanted to procrastinate, but I just never got around to it."

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                                • tangmere
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2000
                                  • 605

                                  #17
                                  Interested to see this old thread. A book is being produced. I will bring this thread to the authors attention. Andy Saunders

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                                  • Colaga
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 38

                                    #18
                                    this thread ought to be a sticky...

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                                    • spookmatambo
                                      Rank 2 Registered User
                                      • Apr 2015
                                      • 1

                                      #19
                                      Dan,
                                      I would be interested to know why Orde was in the Far East why/how he sketched a portrait of my father, S/Ldr (G) J H Chrystall, who was in India (5 squadron) and later in Ceylon as A S O Force 136 (SOE) Kandy. The portrait is dated 14 January 1944 (he was promoted to the rank of W/Cdr in November of that year). I have attached the portrait.
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