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  • NickB
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 647

    Simons Sircus - Lt Cdr Simon Idiens

    Hi All,

    This is a bit of a long shot but I thought I 'd give it a try.

    Back in the late 60's a Lt Cdr Simon Idiens led a Sea Vixen aerobatic team for a season (I think) called Simons Sircus (sic). My father recalls seeing them at Culdrose saying they were mighty impressive.

    Anyway Simon Idiens later went on to fly the mighty Phantom in the Fleet Air Arm but was lost off the coast of Cornwall in Jan 1972 (again I think). My father says that he and his Phantom were never found.

    This story has always intrigued me - don't know why, but it just has. I was just wondering if anyone has any memories of Simons Sircus, any photos or can confirm the story above that Simon/his aircraft were never found.

    There is a good colour picture of the Sea Vixen's of Simons Sircus putting on a display on airliners BTW.

    Many thanks

    Nick
    BOLTER, BOLTER FULL POWER! Keith, if he bolts again we'll have to divert him to St Mawgan
  • JDK
    JDK
    Mr Tweed
    • Sep 2003
    • 8445

    #2
    Was there someting recently on PPrune?
    James K

    Looking and thinking...
    Vintage Aero Writer: Blog & Details

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    • Andy in Beds
      Hawker Aircraft Fan
      • Oct 2003
      • 2900

      #3
      There was a little bit about Simon's Sircus on this very forum earlier this year.
      Try here.

      http://forum.airforces.info/showthre...=Simons+Sircus

      There's a picture if you scroll down the thread.
      Cheers
      Andy
      It is better to be born a beggar than a fool.

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      • paulmcmillan
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jan 2000
        • 2658

        #4
        Phantom XT876 on 10.1.72

        Both crew ejected at 15,000 ft after loss of control at altitude and entered spin at 30,000 ft 27 miles NW of St. Mawgan

        Parachute malfunction resulted in death of Ldr Cmd Idiens, Lt R C O'Connor survived

        Plane crashed in sea off Trevose Head, Cornwall
        Weather - Fair with cloudy patches, clear by early evening.

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        • ALBERT ROSS
          A man of experience!
          • Jan 2004
          • 2633

          #5
          Originally posted by NickB
          Hi All,

          This is a bit of a long shot but I thought I 'd give it a try.

          Back in the late 60's a Lt Cdr Simon Idiens led a Sea Vixen aerobatic team for a season (I think) called Simons Sircus (sic). My father recalls seeing them at Culdrose saying they were mighty impressive.

          Anyway Simon Idiens later went on to fly the mighty Phantom in the Fleet Air Arm but was lost off the coast of Cornwall in Jan 1972 (again I think). My father says that he and his Phantom were never found.

          This story has always intrigued me - don't know why, but it just has. I was just wondering if anyone has any memories of Simons Sircus, any photos or can confirm the story above that Simon/his aircraft were never found.

          There is a good colour picture of the Sea Vixen's of Simons Sircus putting on a display on airliners BTW.

          Many thanks

          Nick
          Sad to hear that. You will find good colour and b/w photos of "Simon's Sircus" in the books "Aerobatic Teams of the World" and "De Havilland Twin Booms" by Adrian Balch, published by Airlife Publishing. Both can be obtained through Amazon.

          I saw "Simon's Sircus" perform at Yeovilton and at Farnborough in September 1968. They also appeared at Brawdy the previous month.
          Adrian

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          • JDK
            JDK
            Mr Tweed
            • Sep 2003
            • 8445

            #6
            Adrian Balch
            Wonder if he posts here, eh Albert?
            James K

            Looking and thinking...
            Vintage Aero Writer: Blog & Details

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            • ALBERT ROSS
              A man of experience!
              • Jan 2004
              • 2633

              #7
              Originally posted by JDK
              Wonder if he posts here, eh Albert?
              I'm sure he does, all the best people post here and I know Adrian well
              Adrian

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              • JDK
                JDK
                Mr Tweed
                • Sep 2003
                • 8445

                #8
                James K

                Looking and thinking...
                Vintage Aero Writer: Blog & Details

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                • Seafuryfan
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Jan 2000
                  • 2497

                  #9
                  A wonderful air-to-air of Simons Circus features in the Nov 04 issue of Aeroplane Monthly.

                  It is unusual in that it shows the 6-ship in a near vertical climb, but shows the plan view (from above) of the formation. I'm not sure if the plume is from the exhaust, or dye, or a combination.

                  Exciting stuff.

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                  • NickB
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 647

                    #10
                    Terrific - thank you all for your help.

                    Kind regards

                    Nick
                    BOLTER, BOLTER FULL POWER! Keith, if he bolts again we'll have to divert him to St Mawgan

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                    • SEAVIXEN176
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 68

                      #11
                      SIMONS SIRCUS

                      HI THERE NICK B ?? as it happens my father was a cpo in the fleet air arm at the time of simons sircus not only that he was part of the ground crew. Every year the navy would form an airobatic team using one of its fixed wing squadrons in 1968 it was 892 sqdrns turn then flying seasvixen FAW2S i will try to send you a few pics but if i cant then i would need your e.mail addres
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                      STRIKE UNSEEN(lash out blindly) 892 LIVES ON........

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                      • SEAVIXEN176
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 68

                        #12
                        SIMONS SIRCUS

                        HI THERE NICK B ?? as it happens my father was a cpo in the fleet air arm at the time of simons sircus not only that he was part of the ground crew. Every year the navy would form an airobatic team using one of its fixed wing squadrons in 1968 it was 892 sqdrns turn then flying seasvixen FAW2s i will try to send you a few pics but if i cant then i would need your e.mail addres s as i have a picture of their logo +a couple of shots of them in the air & if iam lucky i will be able to aquire a piccy of their sqdrn mascot(a lion CALLED SIMON) signing their book hope this helps you peter SEAVIXEN 176 P.S ONE ON ITS WAY TO YOU BUT I WILL NEED YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO SEND ANY MORE cheers peter
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                        • ALBERT ROSS
                          A man of experience!
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2633

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SEAVIXEN176
                          HI THERE NICK B ?? as it happens my father was a cpo in the fleet air arm at the time of simons sircus not only that he was part of the ground crew. Every year the navy would form an airobatic team using one of its fixed wing squadrons in 1969 it was 892 sqdrns turn then flying seasvixen FAW2S i will try to send you a few pics but if i cant then i would need your e.mail addres
                          It was 1968 actually. Here are some of my photos and some from my archives.
                          Adrian

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                          • SEAVIXEN176
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 68

                            #14
                            SEAVIXEN FAW2ssimons sircus

                            hi albert any chance of a bigger picture of the first group vixens with their wings folded so i can print it off cheers peter SEAVIXEN 176....
                            STRIKE UNSEEN(lash out blindly) 892 LIVES ON........

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                            • ALBERT ROSS
                              A man of experience!
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2633

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SEAVIXEN176
                              hi albert any chance of a bigger picture of the first group vixens with their wings folded so i can print it off cheers peter SEAVIXEN 176....
                              Regret forum will not stand a higher resolution/larger photo, but will send you a PM.
                              Adrian

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                              • Texm
                                Junior Member
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 2

                                #16
                                Simons Sircus

                                Dear Peter

                                I was a ground crew member of Simon Sircus A.M(O) I was wondering if I knew your father?? My nickname was Tex. Would be great to hear from you and also would you like a picture of the blazer badge that we wore?? Let me know as I have one. (Just need to scan it!).

                                Regards
                                John (Tex) Messenger

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                                • Caroline
                                  Junior Member
                                  • Sep 2005
                                  • 1

                                  #17
                                  I am searching for any photographs of Simon Idiens. Please can you let me know if you have any photos in your collections of him or if you were a friend and have photos of you both together. Thankyou, any help much appreciated.
                                  Regards
                                  Caroline

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                                  • Texm
                                    Junior Member
                                    • Sep 2005
                                    • 2

                                    #18
                                    Badges

                                    Here are my two badges, one for Simon Sircus and one for my Squadron. As I said before I was ground crew for Simon Sircus and it would be great to hear from other Sircus members.

                                    Regards
                                    John 'Tex' Messenger
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                                    Last edited by Texm; 29th September 2005, 08:08.

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                                    • ALBERT ROSS
                                      A man of experience!
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 2633

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Caroline
                                      I am searching for any photographs of Simon Idiens. Please can you let me know if you have any photos in your collections of him or if you were a friend and have photos of you both together. Thankyou, any help much appreciated.
                                      Regards
                                      Caroline
                                      There was a photo of Simon Idiens and the rest of the team walking the lion in the 1968 RNAS Yeovilton Air Day programme Regret, don't have it anymore but if anyone has, perhaps they could scan it?
                                      Adrian

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                                      • NickB
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 647

                                        #20
                                        About 3 years ago I remember reading an article about I think 'Pathe' releasing their film archive onto the internet. I had a play around on the web site and did a few searches and did indeed find footage of Simon's Sircus with a Lion Cub filmed at Yeovilton. IIRC it also included some footage of a Sea Venom (probably from the FRU) making a wheels up landing at Yeovilton that conicidentally happened whilst the film crew were filming the 'Sircus'.

                                        I'm pretty sure it was the Pathe web site but forgive me if I'm wrong. When I get a quieter moment I'll report back after doing a bit of digging...
                                        BOLTER, BOLTER FULL POWER! Keith, if he bolts again we'll have to divert him to St Mawgan

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