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  • "1stThings1st"
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 52

    Sea Harrier/"Alraigo"/1983

    Can anyone supply me with a LINK to the much publicised photo of Sea Harrier ZA176 after it's emergency landing on the Spanish freighter Alraigo in 1983?

    I'm sure I've seen it here recently, but not having much luck on 'Search' or via the other obvious avenues; perhaps it's me (!)

    Thanks, in anticipation.
    Last edited by "1stThings1st"; 8th August 2004, 08:57.
  • Flood
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2003
    • 9494

    #2
    You are right - there is nothing out there!
    In fact I am having difficulty actually finding pix of the incident amongst my library: what I attach below are Royal Navy pix but come from Sea Harrier and AV-8B by Robert Jackson (which I picked up for 1 - still has the sticker on - several years ago!).
    I think the problem might be that the picture that I remember, taken from the air, of ZA176 on board the Alraigo would have been taken by a news agency photographer and he would have wired the pic as soon as he landed and dev'd it: the result would be a very flat image with a relatively low number of dots per inch (to make it quicker to wire, and newspapers generally don't look for archival quality images anyway) which would be front page material for a few days then fish'n'chip wrapping ever after. Sorry.
    Anyway, Sub-Lt Ian Watson with ZA176 after the Alraigo docked in Santa Cruz, Tenerife, on 9/6/83 (or thereabouts), and Sub-Lt Ian Watson reunited with ZA176 at RNAS Yeovilton, after it had been repaired and allocated to 899NAS (date unstated).
    The Alraigos crew were awarded 500,000 salvage...

    Flood.
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    • "1stThings1st"
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Feb 2004
      • 52

      #3
      Flood.....

      Thanks.

      Yes: it's the famous one from the air I was thinking of, with the Sea Harrier on the 'deck'; which in fact turned out to be a telescope base plate being transported by the Alraigo at the time, I believe.

      I'm so sure I've seen it recently, somewhere on the web .

      Frustrating.
      Last edited by "1stThings1st"; 12th August 2004, 08:19.

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      • "1stThings1st"
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Feb 2004
        • 52

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          • Aug 2004
          • 48

          #5
          All thats needed now is a little Photoshop trickery...

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          • Jagan
            bharatiyayuddhapakshulu
            • Jan 2000
            • 610

            #6
            What actually happened? can someone tell me the story ?
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            • Glen_RCAF_Fan
              Member
              • Jun 2004
              • 63

              #7
              Here's a shot of the same Sea Harrier currently at a Museum.

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              • SteviePB
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Nov 2005
                • 6

                #8
                I have uploaded to YouTube the news footage regarding this incident.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhsifSKa8jQ

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                • hunterxf382
                  Ex-RAF Tech 1978 -1989
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1026

                  #9
                  That's amazing to see..... thanks for uploading it!

                  Found this whilst having a search online:

                  http://www.airspacemag.com/military-...Oddities_.html giving a clearer view from the rear of the aircraft....

                  And scroll down this page for another look... http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...-Mishaps/page3
                  Last edited by hunterxf382; 14th January 2011, 03:24.
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                  • TwinOtter23
                    NAM volunteer-Plugmeister
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 7761

                    #10
                    I’ve made NAM’s curator aware of the You Tube link; a few more details about ZA176’s operational history including its Falklands Ops can be found here!

                    This interesting update about the incident appeared in the Daily Telegraph in 2007!
                    Last edited by TwinOtter23; 14th January 2011, 09:26. Reason: Additional info!
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                    • SteviePB
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Harrier Cargo ship Landing

                      Originally posted by SteviePB View Post
                      I have uploaded to YouTube the news footage regarding this incident.
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhsifSKa8jQ
                      Original YT account closed due a copyright police incident, however a cloned version is on YT.

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                      • Flanker_man
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 3679

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hunterxf382 View Post
                        That's amazing to see..... thanks for uploading it!

                        Found this whilst having a search online:

                        http://www.airspacemag.com/military-...Oddities_.html giving a clearer view from the rear of the aircraft....

                        And scroll down this page for another look... http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...-Mishaps/page3
                        Interesting - in the first link to the B&W photo, the outriggers are retracted and there is no damage on the spine near the wing root.

                        In the second link to the colour photo, the outriggers are down and there appears to be damage - or a panel removed - on the spine at the wing root.

                        Flap configuration is different as well.....

                        No conspiracy theories - just observing.

                        Ken
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                        • Aerodynamik
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 128

                          #13
                          Below is a link to a colour photo:

                          http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205191245

                          Steve
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                          • TwinOtter23
                            NAM volunteer-Plugmeister
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 7761

                            #14
                            I understand that Ian Watson's brother visited ZA176 last August and was shown round the aircraft by some of NAM's volunteers!
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                            • DaveF68
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1790

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Flanker_man View Post
                              Interesting - in the first link to the B&W photo, the outriggers are retracted and there is no damage on the spine near the wing root.

                              In the second link to the colour photo, the outriggers are down and there appears to be damage - or a panel removed - on the spine at the wing root.

                              Flap configuration is different as well.....

                              No conspiracy theories - just observing.

                              Ken

                              Watson attempted to retract the u/c when the SHar started to roll backwards, hence the outriggers being retracted.

                              The colour photo shows the preparation for removing the aircraft from the freighter - the 'missing' section is I'm sure where the wing attachment points and/or lifting ponts are. Presumably also disconnected the hydralics and locked the control surfaces.

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                              • pagen01
                                St Mawganphile
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 10711

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Flanker_man View Post
                                Interesting - in the first link to the B&W photo, the outriggers are retracted and there is no damage on the spine near the wing root.

                                In the second link to the colour photo, the outriggers are down and there appears to be damage - or a panel removed - on the spine at the wing root.

                                Flap configuration is different as well.....

                                No conspiracy theories - just observing.
                                It looks to me like the outriggers have been lowered and locked down (note red RBF flags) and the flaps raised into neutral position so as to make the airframe fit for removal and lowering to the ground. Maybe the spine panel was removed to allow the latter to be undertaken?

                                Edit, sorry Dave, coincidental posting!

                                Beware opening the first link in post #9, it caused my computor to topple!
                                Last edited by pagen01; 10th January 2012, 11:41.
                                http://www.abpic.co.uk/search.php?q=...t=most_popular

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                                • wieesso
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 1862

                                  #17
                                  Photo taken from a different position
                                  http://funkoffizier.files.wordpress....er-a-bordo.jpg

                                  ...and from above
                                  http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%201110.html
                                  http://photos1.blogger.com/photoIncl...33/64903a2.jpg

                                  and also photos on page 4, 5 and 6
                                  http://www.realaeroclubdetenerife.es/docu/N19.pdf
                                  Last edited by wieesso; 10th January 2012, 11:56.

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                                  • Vance
                                    Registered User
                                    • May 2012
                                    • 1

                                    #18
                                    The spine panel was taken off to access the lifting points. How do I know? I'm the one in the blue "T" shirt with his back to the camera. I was responsible for preparing the harrier for the lift and supervising its trip back on the British Tay. I have quite a few photos of the operation.

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                                    • David Burke
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Jan 2000
                                      • 10027

                                      #19
                                      Good thinking with the lifting sling being full forward to stop the nose pitching down when it was lifted!

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                                      • Rockhopper
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Sep 2010
                                        • 163

                                        #20
                                        I was thinking of a black and white one but i did find this image...

                                        http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/...0e011391_b.jpg

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