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  • Paul Rix
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 242

    #21
    Many thanks Flood! You are quite a detective! I didn't expect to learn so much about the photo's when I posted them (I just thought people here would find them interesting). I wish I had some more but unfortunately those above are all I have. Thanks for taking the time to do the research.

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    • Flood
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2003
      • 9494

      #22
      No problem - would be interested if any other registrations are visible on the other pix; if they can be made out on the originals then just put them up. It would help to be able to pin the prints down to an approximate date. Plus (of course) if there are any markings visible on the original print of that Vimy (I am not sure that it is - it does look like one - but I would be happier saying it is with the registration known!).
      Just like to know things, thats all!

      Flood.

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      • Flood
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2003
        • 9494

        #23
        Incidentally, this is a Horsley -

        (Just so you know what it would have looked like when not nose-down...)

        Flood.

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        • Paul Rix
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 242

          #24
          Thanks for the pic Flood. I have to say I have never seen a picture of a Hawsly other than the wrecked one above.

          I rescanned the Vimy (if that is what it is) at a much higher resolution and it came out much better. I also put the image through a couple of filters in Paintshop Pro and the results were pretty good.

          http://www.uploadimages.net/images/818305vimy2.jpg

          I also found another picture that I overlooked. More Hinds I think.

          http://www.uploadimages.net/images/7...awkerhinds.jpg

          The pictures are rather large so I just posted the links to prevent the thread from getting too bogged down.

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          • PhantomII
            Phantoms Phorever
            • Jan 2000
            • 8292

            #25
            Great pictures!

            I love seeing rare photos, and stuff you don't normally get to see.
            Fox-4!

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            • JDK
              JDK
              Mr Tweed
              • Sep 2003
              • 8443

              #26
              Hi Paul,
              It's amazing what can be found out. Here's a shot (from www.multimap.com) of Bicester today. As you can see, it's changed a bit, but the pattern in your photos is still discernable. It's worth noting that as well as all the new houses (Bicester is the UK's fastest growing town) the road on the South side of the airfield has been moved and enlarged, and the railway in the original pics is no longer there.

              I had a tour of the Domestic quarters last SAeptember - very interesting. Bicester airfield (not the domestic area) is for sale...

              Mark - I can't see the pics either now - think Paul's taken them down, or 'dun a Robbo'!

              Cheers
              Attached Files
              James K

              Looking and thinking...
              Vintage Aero Writer: Blog & Details

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              • Flood
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2003
                • 9494

                #27
                Sorry Paul, my computer just tells me the I have typed the address in incorrectly or the page has been deleted.

                Flood.

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                • Arm Waver
                  Certified...
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 3074

                  #28
                  JDK you can just make out the line of the railway on the new map.
                  The road along the southern edge has been altered again since the photo was taken cutting into the edge of the airfield boundary a bit more...
                  The airfield I think is initially to be leased out and some VERY concertive efforts are being made to keep some sort of flying there.
                  I used to work in the H shaped building in the middle of the left hand side (not airfield).
                  OAW
                  It is only kinky the first time...

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                  • Arm Waver
                    Certified...
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 3074

                    #29
                    Just got this in re-Bicester...

                    "WINDRUSHERS GLIDING CLUB

                    PRESS RELEASE

                    2nd Jun 2004

                    Dear Sir or Madam,

                    Windrushers Gliding Club is pleased to announce that terms have been agreed with ATIS REAL Weatheralls, agents acting for Defence Estates, for a 3 year lease of Bicester Airfield, which remains Ministry of Defence property.

                    Windrushers Gliding Club was originally formed in 1958 at RAF Little Rissington and then moved to RAF Bicester before co-locating with the Royal Air Force Gliding and Soaring Association Centre that was created at Bicester in 1963.

                    After 41 years at Bicester the RAF Gliding and Soaring Association is moving its operation to RAF Halton near Aylesbury in June 2004.

                    RAF Bicester is deemed to be of historical importance by English Heritage as it comprises the best-preserved and most strongly representative of the bomber stations built as part of Sir Hugh Trenchard`s 1920s Home Defence Expansion Scheme. The late Lord Trenchard was one of the founders of the Royal Air Force.

                    Windrushers Gliding Club has been re-formed as a civilian club and will be open at Bicester Airfield from 1 July 2004.

                    Our aim is to continue a gliding operation at Bicester and to promote the sport of gliding within the Cherwell District community.

                    Further information via enquiries@windrushers.org.uk or call in at Bicester airfield just off the Buckingham Road at any time after 1 July and follow the written instructions that will be displayed at the gate off Skimmingdish Lane.

                    Ron Smith
                    Communications Officer
                    Windrushers Gliding Club"

                    Nice to see our history saved for a bit longer...
                    OAW
                    It is only kinky the first time...

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                    • Paul Rix
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 242

                      #30
                      hmm seems like the image host server is down. I can't see them either. Maybe they will come back online later.

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                      • Paul Rix
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 242

                        #31
                        Lets try the ImageBucket server.

                        The pictures are reduced in size on this server, so some quality is lost I am afraid.






                        The registration numbers on the Hinds are (from the front):
                        J9939
                        J9936
                        J9934
                        J9946
                        J994?


                        the far two are unreadable I am afraid.
                        Last edited by Paul Rix; 2nd June 2004, 20:11.

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                        • Flood
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 9494

                          #32
                          These Harts are part of the first production batch of 15 (J9933-J9947), of which nearly all served with 33Sqn; the exceptions being J9933, which served with the manufacturers in several different trials, and J9947, which went out to 39Sqn at Raisalpur for tropical trials against its Wapiti IIAs.
                          J9939 33Sqn 5/3/30 10/31; to 51Sqn
                          J9936 33Sqn 27/2/30 10/31; to 57Sqn
                          J9934 33Sqn 15/3/30; with 18Sqn 9/11/31;
                          J9946 33Sqn 8/5/30 (was fitted with a DC conversion set for trials, authorised 13/3/30); to MKRS 19/6/30 for Brussels meeting, then to 33Sqn 13/9/30; MKRS for demonstration purposes 19/9/30; eventually to 18Sqn 29/10/31

                          Info (again!) from Air Britains The J File.

                          I have lightened up your Vimy picture but, although I can see that there is a number on the rudder, it is still unidentifiable.

                          Flood.

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                          • Paul Rix
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 242

                            #33
                            The only thing I can make out on the tail is the letter J.

                            Thanks for the info. I guess the fact that they are part of the first production batch makes this photo rather unique. I wonder if there are any others out there?

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                            • Paul Rix
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 242

                              #34
                              Thanks also to Arm Waver and JDK... fascinating info indeed.

                              RAF Bicester has quite a lot of meaning to my family. It is where my Grandfather met my Grandmother. She worked in the NAAFI at Bicester.

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                              • Mark12
                                MEANS MOTIVE OPPORTUNITY
                                • Jan 2000
                                • 10846

                                #35
                                Paul Rix original photos - The hand of God

                                Originally posted by JDK
                                Looks like your PC is editing what you can see again Mark!
                                JDK,

                                Today the first batch have mysteriously appeared.

                                Mark
                                "...the story had been forensically examined and was deeply impressive. I knew that the whole story was a load of myth and baloney"

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                                • Paul Rix
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 242

                                  #36
                                  ^I reposted them on a different host server.

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                                  • anneorac
                                    Ex-Pat Scottish Member
                                    • Jan 2000
                                    • 647

                                    #37
                                    At last I can see them all. Fantastic stuff. The Armstrong Whitworth Atlas wreckage is rather interesting.

                                    Anne
                                    pb::

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