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By: 27th August 2018 at 15:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-JP fire taxy by Tony Taylor, on Flickr
Was it wet? i never noticed once everying including my wallet was soaked through, hats off to them, near the end they made the hot food concession free to those that remained.
By: 27th August 2018 at 18:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-On possibly their wettest day of the year too. Hopefully that will of helped keep the damage down to a minimum.
Nice capture by the way.
Rob
By: 27th August 2018 at 19:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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yes it is water they used!That’s me in the JP, we had an issue when trying to turn round & taxing back rudder pedals didn’t want to response to the inputs. Then we noticed fire trucks wizzing past and turning round flashing there lights at us.
This was then then the first we knew about the fire!
Turns out it was pad failure that caused the issues.
but a great response from the AFS.
and no major damage caused!
After the fire was out they then again sprayed it with water to help cool the gear down and stop it reigniting
from
https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/612652-kick-fires-light-tyres.html
Even my waterproof boots were soaked through after 6 hours lol, I was soaked to the skin, my wallet even was wet inside, I had a brolley with me, thank God the 1DX is waterprood to an extent, it was soaked and then some. they opened up the hot food stall for free to those of us that remained, I thought that was a nice gesture.
By: 27th August 2018 at 19:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Of course rain has its own advantages :)
VC10 by Tony Taylor, on Flickr
Lightning by Tony Taylor, on Flickr
Lightning strikes by Tony Taylor, on Flickr
By: 27th August 2018 at 20:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It was a seal failure on one of the pistons, it has happened before but unluckily this one failed during the run, a full stbd side overhaul will now be undertaken with spares we have in stock, indeed we had already prepped a spare set due to a seal failure earlier in the year on XW290 on a static anti Det engine run that used up the previous spare set.
By: 27th August 2018 at 23:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Did the Hunter guys manage to move the Hunter ok after the Nose leg collapse (While towing)?
It was a good job the engine did not start & therefore did not do a run!
By: 28th August 2018 at 00:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I hope it's ok, I take it they abandoned starting it as it only had two carts in and would want a dry crank to clear the residual fuel out after the first start.
Towing your loading the leg the other way
l=https://flic.kr/p/296ANeH][/url]Hunter wet start by Tony Taylor, on Flickr
I felt for them all as the weather was atrocious but they carried on regardless, hats off to them all.
By: 28th August 2018 at 00:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It did not look ok ,the leg had collapsed backwards .
By: 28th August 2018 at 02:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-That sounds better than you might think, as it means it hasn't been pulled out but possible has had a jack failure or linkage failure and has "retracted" in the correct sense, so the main nose gear mounts are probably OK one hopes. And at least no one was in or under the nose at the time.
By: 28th August 2018 at 09:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It all sounds a bit of a liability to me. Collapsing gear legs, hot starts and brake fires, all at the same event.
FB
By: 28th August 2018 at 10:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hot starts can happen anytime, had a few myself, normally a quick dry crank and a second start and all is well, but unfortunately they only had two cartridges fitted, it's the vagrancies of vintage jets, heck you want to try coaxing a Derwent into life when it doesn't want to know. Brake fire was a simple seal that wouldn't be forseen and was dealt with quickly and efficently, they happened in the services as well on the JP. The gear could have been any factor, jerk of the tug etc, brakes on.. Brunty operate a first class show and safety is paramount from what I have seen over the years. Sheer bad look and atrocious weather didn't help this year.
By: 28th August 2018 at 10:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Buccaneer by Tony Taylor, on Flickr
By: 28th August 2018 at 19:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The hunter nose leg retracts forward, but in this case the leg collapsed rearwards.
I hope it is a quick fix, although it does not look like it.
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By: 28th August 2018 at 20:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Awww crap, that doesn't look good, I thought it retracted aft, so much for my basic training on them, I do hope the mounts and bulkheads are ok and they can get it repaired.
By: 28th August 2018 at 20:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Sadly it needs a new leg casing
By: 28th August 2018 at 20:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Lucky it didnt happen at speed.
By: 28th August 2018 at 21:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Have they got one or access to one?
BTW seen this?
https://afors.com/index.php?page=adview&adid=17868&imid=0
http://www.rainbowaviation.co.uk/parts.html
Rainbow show one on their parts listing
By: 28th August 2018 at 21:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-That looks like it happened under tow and unlikely to happen at speed.
Tony: amazing pictures! I only have my phone st the moment but I feel I may need that Buccaneer on my garage wall, it’s stunning! Thank you for sharing your memories.
Cheers,
Kurt
By: 28th August 2018 at 22:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Kurt, you can get the larger ones off Flickr, click on the downward pointing arrow and select a size :)
By: 28th August 2018 at 23:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Spraying water directly onto a brake fire including burning oil is a bad thing, it can cause explosions. One of the things learned by professionals. Dry powder is recommended as an extinguishant of first choice.
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By: TonyT - 26th August 2018 at 23:48
Well done all involved in quickly bringing it under control, and to a successful outcome, and thanks to the pilot for swinging it into wind right in front of me.
Jet Provost brake fire by Tony Taylor, on Flickr
JP fire by Tony Taylor, on Flickr